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If there is "masses" of evidence then it shouldn't be too difficult to produce some. Just one piece. Make it your best piece of irrefutable evidence that there was a conspiracy.

I was taking a dump at Hartshead services on the M62 on Thursday when I heard a man with a Scottish accent in the cubicle next to me answer his mobile phone.

Twice during his mumbled conversation he mentioned the word car. I also heard him say Friday and Saturday. :eek:

I think you'll agree, that proves our new PM is up to his neck in this weekends shennanigans ;)
 

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So cards on table - do you have any evidence of a conspiracy yes or no?

I'm not suggesting there is a conspiracy... I see no reason to doubt the story of some bungling amatures who tried to blow up some cars.

My point is that it's a fantastic opportunity for the media to blow it out of all proportion, and make everybody scared, so our new prime minister can step forward and reassure the public that he'll look after all of us by removing more of our civil liberties by pushing more anti-terror bollocks though parliment. The scared and frightened puplic who are walking about with their eyes closed will just lap it up.

Let's all continue to wave goodbye to our freedom! :wave: :cops:
 

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I was taking a dump at Hartshead services on the M62 on Thursday when I heard a man with a Scottish accent in the cubicle next to me answer his mobile phone.

Twice during his mumbled conversation he mentioned the word car. I also heard him say Friday and Saturday. :eek:

I think you'll agree, that proves our new PM is up to his neck in this weekends shennanigans ;)
Lol, you laugh but that would actually be considered evidence by conspiracy loons. In fact that would be about the best evidence they have!
 

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I'm not suggesting there is a conspiracy... I see no reason to doubt the story of some bungling amatures who tried to blow up some cars.

My point is that it's a fantastic opportunity for the media to blow it out of all proportion, and make everybody scared, so our new prime minister can step forward and reassure the public that he'll look after all of us by removing more of our civil liberties by pushing more anti-terror bollocks though parliment. The scared and frightened puplic who are walking about with their eyes closed will just lap it up.
The way you are making it out is that the media and government are in complete cahoots. Which is strange because I distinctly remember the out going prime minister just having a pop at the media.

I must have dreamt that then!
 

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What evidence can you give apart from video evidence? I dont have access to MI5 files here at Zoom HQ. Take 7/7, Blair was slumping in the polls & needed something to boost his ratings, The result. The 7/7 bombings. He was thrusted back into the limelight as the saviour. Problem:Reaction: Solution.

The USA is coming to the end of its oil reserves, It needed to steal some from somewhere else. It created 9/11 to sway public opinion into a war against Iraq and its WMD's. Did they find them? No. It was a lie. Now who controls Iraq's oil exports? The Bush family. At the time the allied forces crossed Kuwait border into Iraq, The evil George Bush Snr was signing muliti-trillion dollar deals with Russia for oil.

They will lie to you again & again & again.....

TerrorStorm (Alex Jones)

7/7 London Bus Bomb Witness - Inside Job PROOF -pt1

If you believe all what the press are feeding you everyday then dont watch the above.

-DZ
 

Mr Radish

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No conspiracy, no hidden agendas. . . .just fanatics who are poisoned against the West and want to kill people, including in some cases themselves.

Yes it will lead to an erosion of our freedoms which is terrible, however given the sad times we live in what do we expect?

It is the same freedom we deserve, that allows evil people the freedom to move around unchecked. Catch 22 really.

During World War 2, many of our fredooms were restricted and we were told what to do by government. I'm sure some people objected then, but on the whole people realised it was for the benefit of all.
The scale and nature of the threat is very different, but many of the principles are the same.

All very desparate from whatever angle you look if you ask me.


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There are masses of evidence, not only from people interviewed on the day at ground zero who reported hearing explosions going on in the twin towers but, the fact the twin towers were closed 2 weeks prior to 9/11 by the CIA who had exclusive access to the buildings for no apparent reason. Theres many Alex Jones videos to keep you educated too.



So why did WTC building 7 collapse like a controlled demolition? Even the New York Mayor said he told his team to "pull the building" Now if theres a building to be "pulled" eg: demolished, it would take a couple of weeks to analyse the structure & place explosives, NOT A FEW HOURS!! the explosives were already there!! so if they were in WTC7, who's to say the CIA didn't take the time they had in the twin towers to do the same?

-DZ

you are compeletely wrong on this and if you want to take it further i suggest you go to the link below and try to continue this post

silverstein did not say to his team to pull and pull does not mean demolish

him an the fire chief discussed the rescue/firefighting operation and thought it would be best to pull and the "fire chief made the decison" to pull his guys out, it was not silverstein who made that choice, do you think he can tell the FDNY what to do?

i could rip the rest of your arguments to pieces on here but this is an oldskool site and should remain that way, there are places for this type of stuff

alex jones has made millions out of fools like you and gets made a fool of by guys in the link i will show you below

go here - Conspiracy Theories - JREF Forum

tell me your usernasme when you join up and i will gladly report back on how you have been made a fool of by the guys on this site
 
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seandelier

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What evidence can you give apart from video evidence? I dont have access to MI5 files here at Zoom HQ. Take 7/7, Blair was slumping in the polls & needed something to boost his ratings, The result. The 7/7 bombings. He was thrusted back into the limelight as the saviour. Problem:Reaction: Solution.

The USA is coming to the end of its oil reserves, It needed to steal some from somewhere else. It created 9/11 to sway public opinion into a war against Iraq and its WMD's.

1. it did not quite work out that way though did it, his approval rating went down cause they blamed him for starting the war against iraq for the attacks happening - so no solution (especially as it has cost him his job)

2. america is not near the end of its oil reserves and imports less oil from iraq now than before (1999, 2000), seeing as how america were so friendly with the country with the largest reserves in the world, why would they want to waste trillions of dollars and thousands of lives to try and get iraqs. does not make economic sense - no solution
3. they import more from canada, venezuela and mexico than iraq, again why waste all that money when it is close to home

now please go to the JREF forum and continue this
 

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The first Merc is found by an ambulanceman when he saw the Mercedes 'smoking'. What was smoking exactly :confused: Propane gas and petrol don't smoke. Interesting what the CIA guy was saying in that interview.

A failed detonator / chemical fuse would smoke very nicely inside a car. Was the petrol just supposed to self combust?

The police are saying that all the pieces are quickly falling into place. They've made numerous arrests up and down the country (none of whom are British conveniently), and seem to be tying the case up nicely.

At this stage non of them seem to be British Nationals. This is not a shock as many of the fighters in Iraq are not Iraqi, they are Pakistani, Jordanian, Syrian Etc. What is convenient about this. The previous bombers were British Nationals, these are not. . . the point is what?

Is this the same British police who normally take about three weeks to finds their arseholes with a mirror on a stick :S .

Yes it is the same British Police!

I also wondered that if the terror threat in this country now stands at 'critical', how the future King of England and his brother can be allowed to have a big jolly up at Wembley Stadium with 63000 other people the day after a 'terror' attack at a British airport.

It was just a shite concert, but it would have sent the wrong message to have cancelled it. Glasgow Airport is back in full operation a day or so later?

Why can nothing be what it is these days?. . .why is it always a conspiracy?. . . Why does there always have to be some sinister angle to every "big" event?

Of course there will have been conspiracies occasionally, but the truth is that most of these events do exactly what they say on the tin in my opinion. I accept that I may be wrong and that the whole reason for the weekends events was actually to draw members of the OSA into disagreeing with each other on this post!!!;)
 

Mr Radish

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What evidence can you give apart from video evidence? I dont have access to MI5 files here at Zoom HQ. Take 7/7, Blair was slumping in the polls & needed something to boost his ratings, The result. The 7/7 bombings. He was thrusted back into the limelight as the saviour. Problem:Reaction: Solution.

The USA is coming to the end of its oil reserves, It needed to steal some from somewhere else. It created 9/11 to sway public opinion into a war against Iraq and its WMD's. Did they find them? No. It was a lie. Now who controls Iraq's oil exports? The Bush family. At the time the allied forces crossed Kuwait border into Iraq, The evil George Bush Snr was signing muliti-trillion dollar deals with Russia for oil.

They will lie to you again & again & again.....

TerrorStorm (Alex Jones)

7/7 London Bus Bomb Witness - Inside Job PROOF -pt1

If you believe all what the press are feeding you everyday then dont watch the above.

-DZ

Nobody with a right mind believes everything the press say, you take a balanced view of all the media coverage.

You certainly don't place all of your confidence in a Website run by some young kid in America, who has his own agenda. I doubt he believes his own site, he does it for the attention, the fame .. . . oh and the money! To accept his truth in contradiction of the rest of the many hundred media sources available is a bit of a risk???
 

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heavy thread !!!!

I don’t believe in any kind of conspiracy theory, if you look and analyze anything hard enough you will always find something that appears as inconsistent that any conspiracists will pick up on and rant about. Yes there will be a media circus and yes its a great way for our new prime minister to create some spin.

the failed bombers are nothing more than fanatics that have been fed a lot of bullshite ideology.
 

Mr Radish

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heavy thread !!!!

I don’t believe in any kind of conspiracy theory, if you look and analyze anything hard enough you will always find something that appears as inconsistent that any conspiracists will pick up on and rant about. Yes there will be a media circus and yes its a great way for our new prime minister to create some spin.

the failed bombers are nothing more than fanatics that have been fed a lot of bullshite ideology.

It's about that simple mate!
 

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I cant beleive people are actually trying to say that these bullshit conspirecy theories are real !!!!!!!!

have you ever watched a documentary with the people giving their evidence to proove their theories ??????

Their all middle aged american star wars fans who still live at home with their mums, have never once had sexual contact with a member of the opposite sex and have the full X-Files box set as pride of place in their dvd collection.

If you watch any documentary about demolishing tower blocks in London or Birmingham or summat, they put charges on just about every floor in the building to make sure that it drops correctly, they have to get rid of all the walls, plaster, paint, wooden frame and everything to attach the charges to the actual metal girders, dont ya think someone who worked there might have seen this going on ???? lol

as for 7/7 being to boost Blairs ratings......you must be fucking joking right ???? i mean come on, are you fucking serious ????

look back in the news archives and i garuntee that on more than one occasion there will have been a huge IRA attack when Margaret Thatcher or the Prime ministers before or after her have had "low ratings"...... are you saying this was reaslly British Agents aswell ?????


It boils down to this, and this alone, if you dont believe me or you dont like what i'm saying then tuff, cos this is the facts and the quicker you get used to it the better.....


....Ive been to Northern Ireland and experienced the atmosphere and feeling that is exactly the same feeling that these extreme fundamentalists have. When you get 5 year old kids who try and smash milk bottles over your head by throwing them at you when your on patrol, and follow that with a barrage of house bricks, you kind of get the immpression they dont like you.lol:S so here it is, this is how it works and listen up good....

They fucking hate us with every part of their body, from the stinky toe nail to the last hair on their head, you have never in your life seen or felt hatred like these people have for us, and there is absolutely nothing you can do to change that.

To end this rant i'll leave you with a quote from one of the best bomb makers the IRA ever had, and i think it just puts into context the extremely hard job the Police and intelligence services have when it comes to finding these people and stopping them, personnally i think they're doing an amazing job and it wasnt for the Northern Ireland conflict giving these guys over 30 years of experience in this field then we would be well and truly fucked!!!!

"The British security forces on the mainland have to be on the ball 100% of the time, we just need to get lucky now and then."
 

betty spaghetti

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:d ...........
 

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