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Benny-Advocaat

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Just thinking with the new "crackdown" on downloading and the threat of your connection being banned, is it possible to hide your i.p addy? Just googled it and it threw back a load of shiz about proxy servers? Has anyone done it, does it work and is it easy :D
 

Barrie Jay

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The latest attempt by the UK Government to stop illegal downloads is flawed and looks like it is to become law. It may stop a few but there are ways and means round the plans.

They are making it the legal responsibility of Internet Service Providers to ansure that what their customers are doing is legal. So you download something illegal, the ISP then checks what is on your PC and gives you a warning if they find it on your PC, repeat offenders have their download speed reduced dramatically and then, should they continue, have their service terminated.

This means that the IP address will be terminated no matter who has carried out the action.

Unsure what happens if the download is encrypted - how could an ISP know the content is legal or illegal?

By using a proxy server your IP address is not the one shown as downloading the content - it is shown as someone elses - and when the ISP goes to check that IP address the file will not be logged on their PC.

People will soon work out how to do this en masse and that is why it will fail - unless they make the use of proxy servers illegal.
 

Benny-Advocaat

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The latest attempt by the UK Government to stop illegal downloads is flawed and looks like it is to become law. It may stop a few but there are ways and means round the plans.

They are making it the legal responsibility of Internet Service Providers to ansure that what their customers are doing is legal. So you download something illegal, the ISP then checks what is on your PC and gives you a warning if they find it on your PC, repeat offenders have their download speed reduced dramatically and then, should they continue, have their service terminated.

This means that the IP address will be terminated no matter who has carried out the action.

Unsure what happens if the download is encrypted - how could an ISP know the content is legal or illegal?

By using a proxy server your IP address is not the one shown as downloading the content - it is shown as someone elses - and when the ISP goes to check that IP address the file will not be logged on their PC.

People will soon work out how to do this en masse and that is why it will fail - unless they make the use of proxy servers illegal.

Cheers Barrie :D
 

stetheboro

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The latest attempt by the UK Government to stop illegal downloads is flawed and looks like it is to become law. It may stop a few but there are ways and means round the plans.

They are making it the legal responsibility of Internet Service Providers to ansure that what their customers are doing is legal. So you download something illegal, the ISP then checks what is on your PC and gives you a warning if they find it on your PC, repeat offenders have their download speed reduced dramatically and then, should they continue, have their service terminated.

This means that the IP address will be terminated no matter who has carried out the action.

Unsure what happens if the download is encrypted - how could an ISP know the content is legal or illegal?

By using a proxy server your IP address is not the one shown as downloading the content - it is shown as someone elses - and when the ISP goes to check that IP address the file will not be logged on their PC.

People will soon work out how to do this en masse and that is why it will fail - unless they make the use of proxy servers illegal.

Your ISP is not allowed to browse any file on your PC without your permission. You would have to physically allow access via an application.

Your ISP can see what files you have downloaded but they would pretty much have to break any copyright rule themselves to see if the file is actually illegal.

My advice is don't believe any of the shit that is put out in front of you. With all the ISP's fighting for customers , you honestly believe that your ISP is going to terminate your service and lose your monthly payment yeah right aint going to happen.
 

blue jammer

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The identification process does not identify who had downloaded the material. Rather it identifies who has uploaded and thereby made the material available for copying.

:LOL:


The real issue though is over priced media, if CD's DVD's Games and Software weren't massively overpriced, a lot more people would purchase instead of downloading.
 

abstract

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It's just scaremongering as far as I am concerned. And anyone who is troubled about it should pay for and use a secure tunnel (SSH) to download files.

I live in North China, somewhere that Internet privacy is low and censorship is extreme. I have to use a tunnel to access most websites I visit, like Facebook for example, as they are blocked on the mainland.

However, as for copyrighted material, China does not recognise International copyright laws and as such you can walk into any store here and purchase the latest pc or console games and movies on pirate DVD, all on display and above board for around 10p a copy :roll:
 

djay

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Most places offer ssl encryption with newsgroups etc these days and personally i wouoldnt touch a p2p link if you paid me, p2p is full of fake crap viruses and god knows whatever else no newsgroups are the thing to use.

Also on some newsgroups these days you can get vpn (virtual private networking) like giganews


Virtual private network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Those hide your ip address and wahtever your downloading under huge encryption and would be classed as a must in the future.

"Your ISP can see what files you have downloaded but they would pretty much have to break any copyright rule themselves to see if the file is actually illegal.

My advice is don't believe any of the shit that is put out in front of you. With all the ISP's fighting for customers , you honestly believe that your ISP is going to terminate your service and lose your monthly payment yeah right aint going to happen."

Not true at all they can tell what you download and obviously from where with deep packet inspection software which ntl was using and maybe still is, and an isp has to by law if asked pass on any data you have or are downloading to the filth etc if a court order is gained.

Think you will find in the next months to years lots of people beliving what you have just written only to find a whooping great bill on your doorstep one day with a court date attacthed if you cant prove you did not download whatever..


vpn and ssl will keep you much safer.
 

Robbie Chopper

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bit confused, i guess we're talking about bit torrents of movies and music albums and the like, but will they even be able to tell if you've say downloaded single mp3's from the usual like 4shared, megaupload and sendspace ???
if so then measure me up for a stripey shirt and trousers right now cos i'm not passing go and not collecting 200 squid :p lol