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siman91

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The arguement can be settled very easily.....

Audiophiles think the Analogue sound of vinyl IS the best, warmest and best reproduction of the original sound.....in a live situation.

Digital is more convenient and with electronic music does not realy compromise the quality too much as most production is electronic also.

Compression of the audio file is the issue and results in a massive drop in quality, noticable at low volume/close field however completely unusable on large installations which have been designed for an analogue signal. My brother was resident in a Shanghai club for 3 months a couple of years ago and anything (including WAV files) digital sounded awful due to the rig being designed at great expense for an analogue signal.

For me, vinyl is best an reproduces the sound exactly as it was intended by the producers but that is only because my music is old, nothing younger than 15 years old. New tracks are produced, released, sold and played digitally which to me is a pitty.

In regards to the comment on Trax pressings, rule of thumb anything on a red label is likely to be shite as this is when Larry Sherman had run out of money and was recycling vinyl ie 87 to circa 91. Black label pressings are original and therefore have limited numbers and therefore were from virgin vinyl. Some of the green, orange and other colours are also originals and generally sound good.

The only advantage with digital other than being portable is that it does not degrade and requires no mainatance. CD's well fairly useless (although I am going to start using mine again after burning a load of WAVs to cd) and vinyl needs cleaning (I have my Loricraft RCM for that) and equipment needs setting up correctly and maintaining with fresh stylis etc.

Conclusion...

Vinyl is how it should be for pre circa 2000 releases. Needs mainataining but sounds best

Digital, could argue thats how it should be played today as produced, released etc all digitally. Retrospective transfers will never sound as good as vinyl but convenient and easy.

CD's sort of fall in the middle and only reason CDJ's are still wanted is they are a good interface for Serato etc.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_QQ1Kqc59s&feature=related]YouTube - DMC World 1991 DJ David (Alemanha)[/ame]

mind you you cant do this on an mp3 ;) check out the end of his set about 6min. :crazy:
 

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lol.............. ;) :p
 

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Heard the funniest thing weekend when a lad was saying my mate was not a dj becasue he was using the Traktor Kontrol s4 even though he was using cdj's. I was itching to tell him I still used vinyl but I just stood there and giggled.
Must say that Traktor s4 is the future, what a piece of kit. The creative possibilities for a live situation far outnumber what can be achieved on a set of decks. I am saving up the £750 as quick as I can to get it
 

pete-nic

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Not been on for a while for exactley this debate , ive spent hundreds of hours djing on osa only to be told by a few that digital is not dj'ing ???? so my theory is vinyl elitists should maybe wind there necks in and stop being so hoity toity over what other people do , i have a similar theory to others on the site which is if ya dont like dont f'kin listen anyway im off back to retirement now watching my black and white tv and spinning some bing crosby on my old gramaphone ......raaaah :mad: :p
 

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ooohhh i would love to twidle your knobs :cool:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDW_pL52Y-Y&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Pioneer DDJ-S1 Controller Official Introduction with Aeroplane[/ame]
 
fpmsl how many vinyl purists will have just done the stare thats in your sig after reading that :D

hahahaha - good point :D

I'm thinking of 'as well as' rather than 'instead of' Technics & vinyl :D

I may well be on foreign assignment with work in the future & 12 months without mixing would kill me... plus how ace would it be just to have that in a rucksack & be able to plug in anywhere from a mate's house, to a pub to a full on venue :thumbsup:

That demo & the features on it made it the closest thing to real decks so far... it's a pity the jog wheels don't revolve as that's a major thing for me (& why I hated CDJ so much) but the led light helps with the feel of the thing.:thumbsup:

Plus being Pioneer... they seem to be pretty much industry standard hardware these days... I do like Traktor as a s/w too.. (not used Itch).

I'm intrigued how you replace battered upfaders & x faders on it mind
 

Nice demo here - it does look sexy

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DIYVXwPW8Q]YouTube - Numark NS6[/ame]

However I prefer the way the lappy sits under the Pioneer kit tho... & that all access to crates is from the hardware rather than the lappy... I would LOVE the decks to revolve tho like on Denon CDJ's... that is above all what I hated about CDJs & that I would miss using a midi controller... it's the tactile feedback... especially when spinning in a tune and scratching... I love torque resistance :love: