Big f@@k off mosque!!!

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Duke

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Now THAT is the best post on this thread imo... at least it resonates most with me...

A mans religion (or not as the case may be) is his own affair... but if you live in this country you are British 1st & foremost...& should be PROUD to be so... if you disagree then you know where the Dover ferries are... get the fuck out of my country.
2 true im all the way wid that, would they let us put a big fuck off cross in the center of mecca , & start reading from the holy book (bible) 2 there kids, how many times can u vote ??????????:naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
 

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2 true im all the way wid that, would they let us put a big fuck off cross in the center of mecca , & start reading from the holy book (bible) 2 there kids, how many times can u vote ??????????:naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
shit argument

there are millions of british muslims who are proud to be british and they worship in their mosques same as the scottish worship in their church of scotland and the jews worship in their synagogues

do people moan about the hindus or jews?? no, it is just an anti-muslim agenda created and fueled by ignorance
 

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people here are confusing saudi arabia with the rest of the arab world

most muslims here are not saudis and in most other muslim countries there are christians and they are allowed to have churches and crosses and the whole works

yet again ignorance is clouding peoples minds
 

Duke

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people here are confusing saudi arabia with the rest of the arab world

most muslims here are not saudis and in most other muslim countries there are christians and they are allowed to have churches and crosses and the whole works

yet again ignorance is clouding peoples minds
my sisinlaws m8 is a teacher in dubhi and she was asked not 2 wear a cross whilst teaching , as it may offend non christens wud u say thats right , to not be able 2 show that ??????? the pub i drink in was asked 2 take down a st george cross flag on st george's day as it was offending sum muslims who lived nearby & yeastur day i heard a muslim boy saying i fucking hate all them white boys ,they should die ,they soon shut up when i said 'is that right' , so its not ignorance its what u pick up
 
In my opinion.... for what it's worth... is that people are human no matter what religion / creed / race.

And being human crosses the whole spectrum from being a right cunto to be being a totally ace person & all gradients in between.

There are ace people who also happen to be Muslims just as there are psycho fuckwits.

There are ace people who also have pro-British beliefs just as there are Nazi skinhead fuckwits.

There are all gradients in between.

Muslims seem to get very bad press at the mo... if I was a Muslim I would ask why... is it a media-whipped up witch hunt ? Or perhaps it's because my religion attracts the most fanatical type of devotee where surrender of common sense, reason & free thinking seems to be a pre-requisite.

I hate fuckin dogma... :mad:
 

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my sisinlaws m8 is a teacher in dubhi and she was asked not 2 wear a cross whilst teaching , as it may offend non christens wud u say thats right , to not be able 2 show that ??????? the pub i drink in was asked 2 take down a st george cross flag on st george's day as it was offending sum muslims who lived nearby & yeastur day i heard a muslim boy saying i fucking hate all them white boys ,they should die ,they soon shut up when i said 'is that right' , so its not ignorance its what u pick up

and we have asked muslim women to not wear the burkha when they are teaching in schools here so touche:p who was she teaching? muslims kids??

at least think about it before you post

the st georges cross is englands flag and they should never be told to take it down, it is not the muslims who are at fault it is the idiots that pandered to them and told the pub to take it down, that is a whole different story

they have probably heard more white people saying that all muslims should be kicked out of the country so your argument is again flawed
 
and we have asked muslim women to not wear the burkha when they are teaching in schools here so touche:p who was she teaching? muslims kids??

at least think about it before you post

I understood it be a mixed race / religion class but happy to be corrected :)

The point about the burkha on teachers is to my mind NOT about religion (like wearing an unobtrusive cross) but about effective communication.

To teach surely you need clarity of speech, enouciation of words & facial body language ? A burkha would inhibit all of those.

Also, rightly or wrongly, a woman in a black burkha where only the eyes are showing would, at least to my ignorant mind, be oppresive & scary to a lil kid...

Will no-one think of the children ??? :D
 

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I understood it be a mixed race / religion class but happy to be corrected :)
:D

I meant here, who was the guys sisnlaws pals wife or whatever teaching in dubai?

not the burkha wearing muslim from the school here

religion has no place in any school IMO regardless of what religion that happens to be
 

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Ok ok lets just ask the question that is on the tip of every1's tongue.... Seandelier are u a muslim? lol just kiddin ya.. I dont think any1 can change any1's opinion on the matter.. It is good 2 have a healthy debate tho ay :thumbsup:

no chance, i'm an atheist, from scotland, who fought in the gulf in the forces, who doesnt understand all this "being british and little villages" means

people are getting confused with being english and being british

as they are getting confused with being a muslim in britain and countries that live under sharia law

anyone who asks for sharia law to be brought in here is a complete fuckwit just the same as anyone who says to ban all mosques is a fuckwit

the muslims who do not learn to speak english (through choice) and who will not integrate into our society should have no rights as to how we live just as we should not be trying to stop them building mosques by using generalisations about terrorists and extremists using it as a meeting place, that is a cop out for blatant anti-muslim sentiment

the same with the argument about not being able to have churches etc in muslim countries, this is complete cockwash, everyone is looking to the most extreme countries like saudi and afghanistan (pre-war) and judging all muslims by the same values

what about palestein, one of my friends is a christian arab from that country

i look at it from both sides and actually research and find out facts before i spout diatribes of hate or mis-information based on ignorance (in the main)

i do have one of them arab headresses that the arabs wear though;) i will also, unfortunately, be traveling to saudi next month due to work committments
 

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'Work commitments' eh... ex-forces as well... :)

I hear freelance 'security' work pays well abroad :D ;)

wrong end of stick again mate:)

i work in the oil industry now and i am actually now a training specialist so will be teachin across there

i'm finished with guns;)
 

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generalisations about terrorists and extremists using it as a meeting place, that is a cop out for blatant anti-muslim sentiment

its not a cop out or blatant anti-muslim sentiment, and this is why.

You wanted to see the Muslims on my 1st year Islam course. They started arguing with the lecturer, who I might add could not only read, write, and speak arabic, but was a specialist on the crusades, jihad and mysticism in Islam, and had written shit loads of books about it all. He was German, and spoke to us in English, so Im guessing he was a clever fella. One day they told us in a seminar that Britain would turn to Islam by God or the rifle, giving us evils from under their naquib. There we all are trying to learn about their religion so that we might educate a new generation.....and they live up to all the media stereotypes. I struggle very much in Manchester to find a Muslim who doesn't seem to comply with most of the criteria which makes normal decent people anti muslim. I study religion because I think its all a big fucking joke, and I love to see what makes people loose all sense of rationality and logic in the name of something for which there will never be any proof of. Its fascinating, truly fascinating, and after studying most of the Abhramic religions in depth I won't be classed as ignorant.

There was an election scam in my Union last year, in which all the Muslims voted themselves into the Union positions. It definatley was not a coincidence. Nowadays, our student paper is shit, the student politics is shit, and nothing gets done. There is a demonstration about Palestine every fucking day however......Islam awareness week has ironically happened about 8 times......and just 3 weeks ago I was handed a leaflet which presented some interesting information that the current Union leaders were attempting to form an alliance with a terrorist organisation in pakistan who recruits young british muslims in the fight of jihad against the west.

They are doing this shit in a British Centre of Academic Excellence, Manchester University. I have every real reason to believe that more of this shit goes on in mosques than anywhere else.....and Im not even going to look for the proof. I know I would find a shit load.

And im not going to apologise for any of that.

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its not a cop out or blatant anti-muslim sentiment, and this is why.

You wanted to see the Muslims on my 1st year Islam course. They started arguing with the lecturer, who I might add could not only read, write, and speak arabic, but was a specialist on the crusades, jihad and mysticism in Islam, and had written shit loads of books about it all. He was German, and spoke to us in English, so Im guessing he was a clever fella. One day they told us in a seminar that Britain would turn to Islam by God or the rifle, giving us evils from under their naquib. There we all are trying to learn about their religion so that we might educate a new generation.....and they live up to all the media stereotypes. I struggle very much in Manchester to find a Muslim who doesn't seem to comply with most of the criteria which makes normal decent people anti muslim. I study religion because I think its all a big fucking joke, and I love to see what makes people loose all sense of rationality and logic in the name of something for which there will never be any proof of. Its fascinating, truly fascinating, and after studying most of the Abhramic religions in depth I won't be classed as ignorant.

There was an election scam in my Union last year, in which all the Muslims voted themselves into the Union positions. It definatley was not a coincidence. Nowadays, our student paper is shit, the student politics is shit, and nothing gets done. There is a demonstration about Palestine every fucking day however......Islam awareness week has ironically happened about 8 times......and just 3 weeks ago I was handed a leaflet which presented some interesting information that the current Union leaders were attempting to form an alliance with a terrorist organisation in pakistan who recruits young british muslims in the fight of jihad against the west.

They are doing this shit in a British Centre of Academic Excellence, Manchester University. I have every real reason to believe that more of this shit goes on in mosques than anywhere else.....and Im not even going to look for the proof. I know I would find a shit load.

And im not going to apologise for any of that.
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lol I really like that post Amy & hope you don't mind I've de-pinked it so as to make it easier to read (I may be alone but by God pink is hard work to read...)

This example to me speaks volumes... for all talk of 'moderate Muslims' (of which I am sure there are many) who just want to practice their chosen religion in peace (as is their absolute right to) there is a significant percentage of Muslims who seek to forcibly impose Muslim values & beliefs on others, with little or no respect for other peoples beliefs & values, or 'face the consequences'... in essence to try & take over the UK from within.

There is NO other religion I can think of that acts like this & then spits their collective kosher dummies out when / if our govt does not appease them by bending over backwards to accomodate. No religion.

If this type of Islam was a political party there would be a name for it... Fascism.

Of course if you point this out you are branded a 'racist' :rolleyes:

As Ghandi once said... "Even if you are in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth".
 

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lol I really like that post Amy & hope you don't mind I've de-pinked it so as to make it easier to read (I may be alone but by God pink is hard work to read...)

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LOL its ok, I've had feedback that the pink is annoying......but you know....im too stubborn to change it :D


But anyway, I think what I'd like to add is that education doesn't always leave people liberal and loving everyone. My experiences and knowledge of Islam has left me very much against it. Some days I even feel so strongly about it that I'd like to get off my arse and do something about it....but then I remember that theres some fake tanning needs doing or something.
 

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LOL its ok, I've had feedback that the pink is annoying......but you know....im too stubborn to change it :D


But anyway, I think what I'd like to add is that education doesn't always leave people liberal and loving everyone. My experiences and knowledge of Islam has left me very much against it. Some days I even feel so strongly about it that I'd like to get off my arse and do something about it....but then I remember that theres some fake tanning needs doing or something.

amy dont say nothing like that. the cyber police will come and get you. Im sure they can let a pedo out of prison to make room for someone making comments like that :eek: :cops: :naughty:
 

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muslims are only muslims when they need or want to be. :thumbsup:
they walk in my casino and suddenly islam means nothing to them. :thumbsup:

exactly, and as soon as Muslim Arabs are out of their airspace they seem to love a good piss up too as my father tells me is the frequent case on flights in and out of Dubai.