Controversial Opinion, I know...

[sweet sensation]

LMAO @ Hekkers ! Nice response from the nu-generation point of view mate - fair play to ya. At the end of the day horses for courses innit - each person knows inside what they like & which music pushes all the right buttons....

too right shooms, nice to hear your point of view hektik

"Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, whatever nation - happyyyyyyyyyy"

I always thought it was "whatever makes you happyyyyy"

Sweet xx

 

[OldskoolDazed (al)]

hektik i know what im sayin about trance i agree yeah they was the proper days of trance yeah - 97, 99 i was goin gatecrasher, golden, Moneypennies, weekly then but had to leave that lifestyle cause after 7 yrs full stop fucked me head had to move the lot - i even did the seasons in ibiza 93 94 95 - but it started goin commercial then, that put me off -lol the benson and hedges gatecrasher tour lol - that started bringin the wankers in - MIXMAG turned shit commercial in 93 94 when they dropped dave seaman and martin pickard as writers n that - the republic got shady through commerciality then was ok - lol i rem the door policy - no ralph lauren no rockport no timberland no cheque shirts hahahha - do yu rem Niche at all ??? - Music was oldskool trance hardhouse n breaks mixed together was wicked just down road from republic - seriously lol gatecrasher was like berlins acroos the road that was in 97 - i went sundissential aswell at favershams aswell that place made me laff - was mainly kids - then ya got the serious clubbers someven travelled from london to be there at 3 pm afternoon when kids had gone, 11 am onwards to sheffiled where ever it is - i not sure now we all ad serious afterhours mashup - till monday - charlie chester - dave beer the lot lol - i even had mem to chuff chuff - ya even had to be interviwed for that on phone - wicked days though

alan lol pissed up reminising

 

[Dj M Jaxx]

In'it Rewind fella

Use to go to all the illegal shit in Sheffield, Do you remeber that long feck off street that was just old wooden warehouse. use to look through all the gaps looking for suspitious light systems and muffled undertones of the Acid tweeked noises

90-92 My God that was such fun, me and mi mate from Bradford use to go a party hunting up there in is 4x4 every weekend

Always somting going on

Some of the best times of my life m8, and that is what Underground means, You dont see that today, because the scene is excepted. Why !

Not because they understand the music
Not because the drugs have been excepted
Not because it has bcome more social
Not because the laws have been slack
Not for any of the above reasons that they cover it up with

It's because more people want it, they know, and they can cash in on it

The diffrence between now and then is......... Now you can buy a nice lttle badge to prove you been a clubbing

That is if you got £20 quid spare for the FAT CAT !!!!

M Jaxx

 

[OldskoolDazed (al)]

jaxx do u rem near the wicker arches - old gatecrasher - n spital hill - hypnosis centre - dj mz one - mongoose (andy) resident can ya rem fantasy fm at all 101 .9 and hardcore fm 100.8 they was when i was hangin with the crew - rem attercliffe thinks thats what u on abouty near railway sheds - near where sheffield don valley is now - used to be mass warehouses - propewr takin me back rem it like yesterday - sheffield bleep music - do you rem the limit - west st - jam factory - the palais with out very own green of ere resident with anwar n dave seaman sasha n the like in 91 early 92 - err Compoulsion earlier but i was liccle - Occassions and the musicmaker above ki ki's - what times

alan

sheffield rocked 91 92

jaxx did u see sasha at roxy's sheffield mid 92

 

[simmo]

it aint piano its................

fuckin E tunes

 

[OldskoolDazed (al)]

INNIT SIMMO - TIS ALWAYS BEEN CALLED THAT - RESPECT MUCKA

DID U EVER GET THAT XTC EP BY WAY

AL

SEE YA AT GOODTIMES

 

[Pixie]

I agree with a lot of the points made on here but Hekkers is right too. When we were out & about in the early 90's not much of what we were doing was legal so it had the undergound vibe that I think is what we loved (putting the music aside). These days as things become the 'norm' & people accept that certain *ahem* things are gonna happen at the weekend it doesn't have the same exceitement to it as it did then.

The people will always love the music from their own era in 10 years time no matter what was being played. Even the kids of today will look fondly back on S Club 7 just as we looked back fondly on Wham once upon a time because that's their era.

Recently I've been to a coupld of HH clubs & on in Bradford is members/invite only to get round licencing laws (I think) therepfre it's invited guests only & cos of that it's got the old underground vibe that we all know & love. I went there last month & I'm going again this month - I LOVED IT !!!!

BYO booze too....bargain !!

A very good thread Missed-A-Monday. We need more debates like this on here !! Please don't apologise for putting you opinion on here hun xxxxxx

 

[simmo]

damm right alan!!!!

ya dont have 2 av piano!!! just a beep bleep does me!!!!

used 2 love dat belgium crack me, aswell me....

as the man like lethal once said:

" you have just boarded the exstacy express, wiv daz willot the driver n mc lethal 2 guide ya"

 

[butty]

INNIT SIMMO - TIS ALWAYS BEEN CALLED THAT - RESPECT MUCKA

DID U EVER GET THAT XTC EP BY WAY

AL

SEE YA AT GOODTIMES

yer caps lock is ti the left of ur a button mukka

 

[Dj M Jaxx]

jaxx do u rem near the wicker arches - old gatecrasher - n spital hill - hypnosis centre - dj mz one - mongoose (andy) resident can ya rem fantasy fm at all 101 .9 and hardcore fm 100.8 they was when i was hangin with the crew - rem attercliffe thinks thats what u on abouty near railway sheds - near where sheffield don valley is now - used to be mass warehouses - propewr takin me back rem it like yesterday - sheffield bleep music - do you rem the limit - west st - jam factory - the palais with out very own green of ere resident with anwar n dave seaman sasha n the like in 91 early 92 - err Compoulsion earlier but i was liccle - Occassions and the musicmaker above ki ki's - what times

alan

sheffield rocked 91 92

jaxx did u see sasha at roxy's sheffield mid 92

Did all that stuff mate, I got more into the Antemz ( E- Tunes) Around 92ish when I was DJing on Power FM ( York )

But before that I use to love the Sheffield Beep Era man

Tricky Disco use to be my wake up call for the weekend

I cant beleive you remember all them places Al m8
Lets see..... I was 20 at the time, and clogged up in Airwalks with checked laces, baggie red scate rags and a 0904 York bagie top
OOO cant forget the oil tinted purple round Lenon glases

Okla hommar

them beep-bleep moments in heaven hey Al as a nut in a snikers factory

 

[Missed(A)Monday]

Hehehehe, this has turned into a " do you remember back in the day thread" I find it quite interesting reading, but I was trying to debate a point about the music and the scene. I think it's odd that people are trying to recreate it in 2002for example. I mean I am sure there are more than 3 good hip hop trax in the world (all from the same era, ie, dope demand, jailbreak beats and know how!) I mean how many times can you pay these records? The only purpose I see in it is that its just looking too the past all the time and not focussing on what's good now.

I see this "holding on to the past" thing in the same light as the northern soul scene with people who are 40 odd, chewing gum (even though they probably can't be arsed dropping speed as theyre too old) and going to Northern soul weeknders at pontins in Southport for the weekend talking about they dont make music like they used to.

I'm not being rude, but I do see a certain tragedy in that.

 

[butty]

my opinion on it is i like tunes that make me rush and the hairs on the back of me neck stand on end - to me it doesnt matter what year they was made i like stuff from 90 i like stuff from 95-97 (pianoman n stuff) but my ears aint heard out thats been brought out lately that they have liked as much as the old stuff therefore i prefer to listen to the older stuff. also i started the site coz the tunes from back in the day r prolly the hardest to get yer pincers on - no 1 ever seems to know n e of the names but yet most peeps all know 1 or 2 tunes, and with there being so many others out there that people aint listend to this site is here to show them what was there back in the day. if it makes somebody happy and they enjoy listening to tunes from back in the day i think thats a good thing - i wasnt around clubbing when all the tunes were out i just thank god i found them at sum point so if it helps 1 or 2 people get feelings like i have off the tunes u find on the site then to me thats a job well done.

ive said it before n il say it again til a tune makes me rush as much sweet sensation does (the tune!!) then im stayin in the past

thats my view on it n e ways

 

[Missed(A)Monday]

I agree with some of your points. If you werent there back in the original scene, I can sort of understand you wanting to recreate the old days by spinning these tunes if you have never heard them before. But I suspect that most people that loved those tunes are now in their late 20's early 30's like my self, and I think trying to recreate that buzz when youre older is a bit sad. Thats one of the points I was making anyway!

I mean when i used to see paul taylor in Burnley (12 years ago) he was an old baldy with a tasche then) He looked silly in his pink kickers, god only knows what he looks like now still spinning Hardcore Uproar and the likes in the new milenium

 

[sirius]

Heheh. You an ex Burnley bod, bud?. You know, that sticky brown carpet in the entrance of Angels was still there when they pulled it down!!! Now thats both young and old experiencing the same thing!!. Heheheh. Oh, hes still bald and probably still has those skanky trainers somewhere.........


God, you stirred up a hornets nest here buddy.


Personally, I have had my fingers in every pie when it comes to the evolution of dance music and two particular styles have left me begging for more - and thats Epichouse/Progressive and still OldSkool (which was what I was into 'in the day' aswell).

When progresssive house emerged late 94-97 especially, it was like a new baptism of dance music for me. I recommend *everybody* listens to SundayClub's 'Paladian Dawn' and dare them not to be impressed by the sheer soundscape and journey it takes you on (especially if you listen to it uninterupted without distraction in the dark).
Thier other track 'Winds of change(part 1)' is another one.....if you dont like them, fairy nuff, but for me (besides old skool) this is what 'intelligent' dance music is/was all about....music with soul too.
I yearn to be impressed this way in music, and the shite that can get played sometimes these days is the same old tired stuff looped and looped and morphed in and out and it has no soul in it, for me anyway its lifeless and dissapointing.

Anyway, before it turns into war and piece, ill leave it there....


Cheers,

Sirius.

 

[glazzy]

no 1 ever seems to know n e of the names

about 2 years ago i couldn't tell y' any of the names(i'm still a bit crap now really) and i had to sing a tune to some1 i knew...who told me the name of it, so i logged into napster downloaded the tune played it and nearly cried my eyes out...it was SOUND OF EDEN...then i discovered that there were a ton of tunes on there...the memories it brought back were shockin'...i thought these tunes had disapeared forever!!!

in a way tunes r just like looking at pictures it's all about memories...if u get wot i mean, in a shit typa way

as for recreating the buzz well i'm up for that even if it's never gonna happen the same as it did then...were just doin it again with different people in different clubs.

it's not the only music i listen to...there's not much that will get my destiny's child cd out the car, sad i know but then that's just me:S

god damn this thread has made me type too much

ive said it before n il say it again til a tune makes me rush as much sweet sensation does (the tune!!) then im stayin in the past

ahhh sweet sensation, can i stay in the past with u butty please???

jayne x

 

[whatyadoinsucka]

new music

I can't cope with the shit they produce nowadays

I had pete tong on and every track seems to be sampled from old house track
take a new one,played tonight is it copied of livin joy 'i'm a dreamer' or what

I prefer my oldskool, house electro, hiphop, jungle
when it was a new thing


now their are too many germans bangin out shit trance

and speed gargae what a load of wank
what happened to the good old garage that was played at all the clubs mid 90's

and hard house, feck me its speeded up house
not hard how 'de vit' once played it


the only new music I can listen to is Drum and bass/ jungle as its still iMO

pioneering, and the guys are making the music for the love of it, not for the money as in hh,trance,sgarage, and what over shit names there are out their

plus most djs on the circuit can't mix let alone beat mix well

apart from sasha and a few others
pete tong gets worse everytime you here him

big up nipper, sasha, seaman, dj hype, etc..............and travis

Feck off fudge fool, all gone wrong, and the rest
FERGIE what a tosser, surprised his neck is still upright (the size of his chain)

 

[Missed(A)Monday]

I tend to disagree, I mean, Piano tunes in the early 90's became ridiculous, Here was the scenario:

The Italians would copy off a late 80's chicago piano riff
They would then steal a 70's acca, (probably from acas anon vols)
They would then release another track and sample from the last Itia toon
This would then be robbed by a couple of northern lads who would do the same thing again with a different acca on it perhaps (this is where Mr PianoMan comes in)
This would then be speeded up with a break behind it by a couple of guys from london and called happy hardcore
This would then hit the charts later by pop acts, get to No1 and called something daft like let me be your fantasy

total parody of the whole thing, the question is, with the nature and progression of sampling, where else could it have possibly gone? It was a totally organic progression

The whole thing became so formulatic that it was crazy, it just went up it's own arse, just like trance music did 10 years later.....

 

[sirius]

Hey, Piano choones are my thang, and even I must agree with you 100%. I love my piano's but it was getting to the verge of ridiculus sometimes.

However, thats how music evolves - folk get tired of the same old shite, no matter what genre it is, so from the best elements of that style another musical style generation appears and when that gets too commercialised it dies and another is born... it goes on and on.

One thing is for sure, those who thought dance music would die a death back in the mid 90's were very wrong. I bet its the longest lasting music genre of the last 60 years. Punk/disco went in and out in the 70's, the Quo etc got stale and that style went late 80's, the farm/jesus jones style went after 91's etc etc.

But dance music lives on, in whatever form. Thank god. Old or new it beats thrash guitars and boy band factory mass produced twaddle.

If its dance music and it aint funky or intelligent with a bit of emotion in it, then its poor. Old skool has the happy/rough emotion to it and epichouse and some drum&bass stuff has the intelligence and new innovations pushing boundries further. But admittedly, these have either gone stale or are getting stale - I just love them anyway and always will and havent noticed yet what the new twist will be....but for me, hardhouse and arpeggio'd/morphed to death trance isnt it. Theres just no feeling there.
Bigbeats/hybrid style breaks has the groovey element that often lacks in newer stuff. What I dance to and what I listen to can be two totally different things sometimes. Hybrid mix of Papua new guinea would get be dancing in a club and Sunday club is what I really enjoy listening to in a different way, if you know what I mean, even though I would dance to it too if I was at some prog house club.......

Just like piano's got done to death on virtually every single record in 91/92 like you say(and I agree), that bloody warbling arpegg trance and morphing is todays equivalent I suppose. But even that is better than chart fodder innit !!!!.

Sirius.

 

[Joker Jen]

right I've read all the posts in this thread n I look at it like this a tunes a tune no matter wot era's or style it's from n if 1 person enjoys it then that's up2 em. Every1 is entitled 2 their opinion n that's fair enouff I enjoy listenin 2 mostly the piano stuff meself n am no tune meister cos I usually 4get the name no matter when I'm told, but that's my choice n I believe rightly or wrongly that's wot it's all bout innit!! Every1 is welcome here n not jus cos of the tunes but the atomsphere that is osa soz if I'm bein deep but that's how I feel!!!

 

[glazzy]

Every1 is welcome here n not jus cos of the tunes but the atomsphere that is osa soz if I'm bein deep but that's how I feel!!!

well said m8...you scare me wen ur serious...i'm agreeing with u incase u

me!!!!!

do u like me new smilies i found??? there ded good

and there's ;oads more but i'm too tired...lol

jayne x