fahrenheit 9/11

[nathan]

Just watched it. Go see it NOW. Don't make me have to get angry and tell you twice.
Mindblowing stuff.

 

[sirius]

Im only quite intrested in seeing it, perhaps more as an observer of what propaganda and facile left wing lemming stance its promoting in another 'bash the white west' fest that Al Jazeera and Al muhaajiroun itself couldnt even have got away with.
However, Im not prepared to line the pockets and be involved in colluding to make the film a box office smash and show that this style of left wing approach is one which works. Of course, it will sell out on tickets anyway and no doubt raise even more disillusionment and unrest between the asian youths and the rest of us as the 'dirty kuffar', but at least my concience would be clean.
Im going to wait until I can see it for free, and make a final opinion on it after that point. Theres bound to be questions and points raised which will make me sit and take note, but Im not paying to see it, no way, not ever. When I see a film I want to be entertained, not be subjected to a one sided viewpoint of events which should be televised and not sensationilsed by the hollywood and media engine.
No doubt (Im guessing here) the premise is going to be that Iraq was a peace fairing land of children happily playing in the park and that the Islamic faith and Sadam himself wasnt any sort of threat to its own people or the west whatsoever and how it was all generally fantastic before the evil white man came along to allegedly steal thier oil or something. I shall have to wait and see.

I cant comment more than that becuase I havent seen it, but even if I did see it, Im not sure how much of it is going to be spinned into Micheal Moores left wing outlook and agenda and how much is true fact that we should be truelly ashamed of.


Sirius.

 

[PlebHead]

ive been meaning to have a watch of this, its the new one by michael moore aint it. i saw bowling for columbine and found that quite interesting.

 

[nathan]

jesus christ

Im only quite intrested in seeing it, perhaps more as an observer of what propaganda and facile left wing lemming stance its promoting in another 'bash the white west' fest that Al Jazeera and Al muhaajiroun itself couldnt even have got away with.
However, Im not prepared to line the pockets and be involved in colluding to make the film a box office smash and show that this style of left wing approach is one which works. Of course, it will sell out on tickets anyway and no doubt raise even more disillusionment and unrest between the asian youths and the rest of us as the 'dirty kuffar', but at least my concience would be clean.
Im going to wait until I can see it for free, and make a final opinion on it after that point. Theres bound to be questions and points raised which will make me sit and take note, but Im not paying to see it, no way, not ever. When I see a film I want to be entertained, not be subjected to a one sided viewpoint of events which should be televised and not sensationilsed by the hollywood and media engine.
No doubt (Im guessing here) the premise is going to be that Iraq was a peace fairing land of children happily playing in the park and that the Islamic faith and Sadam himself wasnt any sort of threat to its own people or the west whatsoever and how it was all generally fantastic before the evil white man came along to allegedly steal thier oil or something. I shall have to wait and see.

I cant comment more than that becuase I havent seen it, but even if I did see it, Im not sure how much of it is going to be spinned into Micheal Moores left wing outlook and agenda and how much is true fact that we should be truelly ashamed of.

Sirius.

With people with opinions like yours what are you doing here? You should be running the United states. Or perhaps be michael portillos right hand man.
Yours,
Nathan (working for a left wing national newspaper) davis.
And I thought the rumours about you weren't true. Tsk tsk

 

[sirius]

lol. Yeah, typical left media remark (complete with evil American undertones) there . hahah. just kiddin'!!!

We (I) shall have to wait and see, hahah. I guess Im classed as right wing then lol, Im just unsure about such spoonfeeding of the masses with such a one sided approach (especially after the biased media coverage and stance already dished out) and perhaps Im unintentionaly bundling other concerns I have about certain things instead of judging it on its sole topic, which is probably the war I suppose, although its effect (for me) has shown up a whole new danger in my eyes, such as that dipstik London mayor you have down there


Its good to agree to disagree


Cheerio bud

Sirius.

 

[stuck in Aahz]

Excellent comments Sirius!

This film is nothing more than political propaganda designed specifically to sway American voters in this election year. Its release was timed precisely to be able to be seen by as many voters as possible before it can no longer be legaly showed in the theaters. Thats right, it cannot be shown in theaters 30 days prior to the election because it is a POLITICAL movie, NOT a documentary.

Even the New York Times, the most liberal, left wing paper in the US has proclaimed that the film stretches every fabric of truth it can to distort any and all facts into persuading the audience towards the far left viewpoint.

There is a nationwide chain of theaters over here that will not even show this film due to the threat it poses if people actually buy into the lies contained within.

The producer, Michael Moore, is quoted on record several times just after the 911 attacks saying things like America deserved the attacks because we are a nation of baby killers, and other such crap. He is just as big a threat to our country as the terrorist themselves...

 

[Shooms]

can't wait to see this film myself....

n for those that dig their conspiracy theories can I also recommend David Ickes books; Robots Rebellion, & the Truth shall set you free & the biggest secret...

even if you read them only as works of fiction they are gripping stuff

 

[doolz]

want to see this bigtime

good on micheal moore of course its biased hes fighting fire with fire

 

[misstickle]

The producer, Michael Moore, is quoted on record several times just after the 911 attacks saying things like America deserved the attacks because we are a nation of baby killers, and other such crap. He is just as big a threat to our country as the terrorist themselves...

Terrorism wouldn't be as big a threat to anyone though if America stopped selling WOMD then distroying the so called countries that bought them! :|

As a political system America is the biggest terrorist threat to our planet. They strive for world economic domination and use every sneaky capitalist trick to achieve it. They didn't deserve the 911 attack, no one does, but they should have damn well expected it!

 

[bigtruck]

got it off mkt today n im gonna watch it after brit GP, looks a raspa of a flick

 

[lippiatte]

let's face it....we're being lied to by ALL. the rights skew things there way, the left skews it theirs. and then the media does a good job of manipulating the facts themselves....

i've seen the movie 3 times. i consider myself a moderate democrat (very slightly left). at first i was outraged by the movie....how could our president and his administration do this and get away with it? then i saw it again....i was still outraged, but it forced me to do some investigating of my own. in doing so, i stumbled on a website that basically disected all of the trickery/bait and switch methods michael moore used in 'bowling for columbine.' at that point i wasn't sure about the movie because i'm sure moore has used more of his cleverness again in F 9/11. then i read an interview with moore in Entertainment Weekly and he is basically saying that he is ready for any kind of criticism thrown at him. he has armed himself with the number one liberal debator in the US, and he has hired 3rd party "fact checkers" to go through the entire movie and find any false statements. so then i wasn't sure what to believe.....AGAIN!

at this point i am more confused than i was before i saw the movie. i think that if the movie does nothing other than force people to do a little digging on there own...then bravo to michael moore.....get people involved.

it is definitely a well thought out, entertaining, and thought provoking movie. even the hardest right winger will find himself snickering...

stuck in aahz....you are one of my best friends in the world....but if you haven't seen the movie, you couldn't possibly know how to comment on what is being portrayed. please see it...

 

[sirius]

Terrorism wouldn't be as big a threat to anyone though if America stopped selling WOMD then distroying the so called countries that bought them! :|

As a political system America is the biggest terrorist threat to our planet. They strive for world economic domination and use every sneaky capitalist trick to achieve it. They didn't deserve the 911 attack, no one does, but they should have damn well expected it!

lol. Ive sat for two hours typing a huge response out, but Ive decided Im just wasting my time and deleted it because left liberals are often not intrested in hearing uncomfortable issues that destroy a cosy perception.
Im intrested in seeing it, its bound to be stern stuff, but there is other issues going on which need adressing. I think Id be moved by the film, but still skeptical now I know a few underlying east/west differences. The war is only part of the problem.

See ya

Sirius.

 

[Northern Star]

Basically its all BOLLOX........stuff politics and stuff the government.....never voted and no intentions of ever doing so..........politics and religion are all to blame for the state of this world...... and we are all as bad as each other........never will there be a time were we can live as one as there are too many opinionated people on this planet who all have their own ideas for how it should be run......just let me be and the world can spin around me and my ignorance for ignorance is bliss....its a dismal scenario and dismal times we live in but there is nothing we can do...it will jus continue to get worse until one day........BOOOOOOOM! no more music no more sounds of laughter and no more life! tis grim as.......but inevitable if the leaders of this world dont change......

peace to the masses but that will never happen! but u live in hope! as hope is all we have left! :$

 

[nathan]

deffo

Terrorism wouldn't be as big a threat to anyone though if America stopped selling WOMD then distroying the so called countries that bought them! :|

As a political system America is the biggest terrorist threat to our planet. They strive for world economic domination and use every sneaky capitalist trick to achieve it. They didn't deserve the 911 attack, no one does, but they should have damn well expected it!

exactly. bush is an arsehole if anyone disagrees with that they are insane.

 

[John]

watched this mad documentry and gotta say it scares the shit out of me .
george bush really is a puppet on string, it's all about the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[misstickle]

lol. Ive sat for two hours typing a huge response out, but Ive decided Im just wasting my time and deleted it because left liberals are often not intrested in hearing uncomfortable issues that destroy a cosy perception.
Im intrested in seeing it, its bound to be stern stuff, but there is other issues going on which need adressing. I think Id be moved by the film, but still skeptical now I know a few underlying east/west differences. The war is only part of the problem.

See ya

Sirius.

You should have gone for the huge response. I have strong political thoughts, yet I'm always open to hear what other people think.

I personally would class myself as left wing, however, I don't think that being anti-American government or being opposed to the Iraqi war actually has anything to do with having a far right or left political stance. Many members of the Conservative party were highly against the war as were some of the BNP and UK Independence, all right wing parties.

I am well aware that the film will be bias, then again all films and books are. It would very hard to make a film like this that stirs your thoughts and emotions without portraying someone as the typical "villan" or the "victim". I suppose you just have to remember that it is just a film and not entirely factual.

There are probably other issues that need addressing, but that's down to someone else to do it. From what I've read Micheal Moore has studied the issues comprehensively but in reality the film has to be edited or it'd go on for days i suppose!?

I still can't wait to see it though and still think it'll be a real eye opener. I have a strong dislike for George Bush and his policies, and that's before I've even seen this film.

I still think you're a right wing facist Sirius but that doesn't stop me from liking you or respecting your views (sometimes ) Now can you put up the 2 hour rant please coz I'm bored of every other thread in chillout at the moment (tickle's childish tamtrum ends)

 

[misstickle]

exactly. bush is an arsehole if anyone disagrees with that they are insane.

agreed

to disagree would be as insane as Bush himself.........



at that level of insanity you're a barking loony

 

[sirius]

bush is an arsehole if anyone disagrees with that they are insane.

Agreed on both accounts

Toodle pip.

Sirius

 

[Nemesis]

was going to see this yesturday but it was sold out i shall remember to book in advance next time!

 

[grad]

I haven't seen it yet, but I bet it goes something like this;

Don't make me have to

consider myself a moderate democrat

we are a nation of baby killers

if anyone disagrees with that they are insane

it'll be all facts, just craftily edited. Maybe I should watch it first... :$


as lippiatte said there seemed to be a lot of trickery in bowling for columbine..to start the two kids who went with him to the k-mart (?) company say they were conned and know refuse to talk to him..but that's another film and another thread.