First use of scratching on a record

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Jonno

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What do you reckon was the first record to have scratching on?

I've just been going through some disco records, and I've come across this all the way back from 1976! Now the sound could be done by a guitar but it sounds like scratching and it's called a scratch!

Have a listen
 

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Jiglo

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Wow!! That's amazing and uncanny, It sounds like modern scratching!:eek: :thumbsup:

I wonder when Grandwizzard Theodore invented vinyl scratching, it must have been around that time!:S
 

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Just done a bit of research on Google and I found a piece that says

.........In the summer of 1975, Theodore, at the age of 13, unintentionally invented the scratch. " I used to come home from school everyday and play records. This one particular day, my mother banged on the door yelling at me because the music was too loud. When she walked in, I still had my hand on the record that was playing and I kind of moved it back and forth. When she left, I was like 'Yo! That sounded kind of cool. I better experiment with that.'"
 

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It's bizarre that there was already a sound called a scratch that sounded like a scratch out there in the music community in 76 though.

It would be wierd that the 13 year old Theodore's scratch had reached that far by then.

Where does the name "scratch" come from though? Because you're not actually scratching the record as such.
 

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Markz said:
Have u seen the movie "Scratch" its an education in itself :thumbsup:
Aye , watched that , Remember some silly arse saying something along the lines of "everytime i hear a scratch in a record i feel like i should be getting royalties" lol ,yeah fookin rite mate :thumbsup: think he was claiming to have invented it...
 

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Aye , watched that , Remember some silly arse saying something along the lines of "everytime i hear a scratch in a record i feel like i should be getting royalties" yeah fookin rite mate :thumbsup: think he was claiming to have invented it...

Heh, that was DST who scratched on Herbie Hancock's 'Rockit' I remember that too, top film that. :D

If you liked that, I'd recommend DJ Shadow's 'In Tune and On Time' and Product Placement :thumbsup:
 

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silocybe said:
Aye , watched that , Remember some silly arse saying something along the lines of "everytime i hear a scratch in a record i feel like i should be getting royalties" lol ,yeah fookin rite mate :thumbsup: think he was claiming to have invented it...
It's Grand Wizard Theodore - the one Jigolo has mentioned. Oddly enough though he is generally accepted to have "invented" scratching per se, i.e. using the sound as an instrument. Although I've got to say I'm with you on his royalties bollocks he spouts!
 

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Markz said:
Have u seen the movie "Scratch" its an education in itself :thumbsup:
It's a great film, watched it a good few times. Don't recall them saying where the term "scratch" came from though.
 

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I'll say one thing as well - it's not a bad song in general. For a record that was actually done in 1976, it sounds like it could have come out 5 or 10 years ago instead.
 

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rockit is credited as being the first record to have scratching on it
I thought that was certainly up there too along with Malcolm Mclaren (wanker) - D'Ya Like Scratching, but they were from 1983 or thereabouts.

Here's a record with scratching on from 76! They even call it scratching on the record!
 

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Jonno said:
Now the sound could be done by a guitar but it sounds like scratching and it's called a scratch!

Have a listen


quite possibly.......... Jimi hendrix used to do a kind of scratching noise on some of his songs...... not quite like a modern day scratch though............ it is done by covering your strings with your left hand (not pressed against the thret board) and then strumming or using and individual string with the right hand........ in fact if you use your thumb nail you can scratch the string and it makes a scrathing noise...

not sure about it on the disco tune though........sounds very real... :S
 

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What's she singing before the "scrating" bit?

Sounds like "When you hear the scratch of the guitar scratching"
 

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ilovepiano said:
What's she singing before the "scrating" bit?

Sounds like "When you hear the scratch of the guitar scratching"


well spotted...... I was listening to the scratch noise and missed the vocal bit....... your right though :thumbsup:

who needs vinyl when you got a geeeeeeeeeetar phones:
 
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Jonno

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ilovepiano said:
What's she singing before the "scrating" bit?

Sounds like "When you hear the scratch of the guitar scratching"
That's exactly what she says which is the wierd part - it's called a scratch and lo and behold it sounds like a scratch too!
 

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Magic Disco Machine did a song called 'Scratchin' in 1975 too, but strangely there was nothing resembling scratching on it.

I wonder if it was a jive word meaning something else?:S
 

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The funky guitar noise that is used in tracks such as Know How/Shaft and in a lot of Chic productions involved a certain way of playing plus a flange/phaser effect - this was widely known as "chicken scratch guitar", I guess this is what she is reffering to in the "Hear the guitar scratch" lyric - it sounds like a little lick of "chicken scratch guitar" to me phones: