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Good posting Al :thumbsup:

I try meself to experiment with obscure tunes/genre in the mix - sometimes it comes off - sometimes it doesn't - but feck it there's nowt worse than formulaic mixing :mad: Same tunes, same mixing - no surprises

Check this out for a listing on an old tape of mine - not sure who DJ was but circa 90 - all mixed (OK sometimes the guy turned off 1 deck & mixed in when the other was s-l-o-w-i-n-g down but still)

Grover Washington - Mr Magic (live)
Jam on the mutha - Hotel california
??? (forgot artist - lol got 12 at home !) - voodoo chile (uses the b-line from mantronix)
Jimi Hendrix - Purple Haze
Santana - Black Magic Woman
Plutonic - Tubular Bells
Santana - She's not there
N-Joi - Adrenalin

Other side is early techno (Dub of doom/Last night of the world etc etc) mixed with loads of old film accapellas - wicked stuff !
 

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Quality Al, I am always having these conversations with my mates. As the DJ youve got so much power, the attention of the whole club and the opportunity to do something a bit crazy.

The newer cheese filled Creams and Gatecrashers of the world have dj's who are too scared of fucking up and the clubbers just seem to want standard no scratch, spinback, mad mix, crazy sample DJ'ing.

Shame.

Old skool - Live forever!!!!
 

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>>innit im gonna rip some more wicked samples i ave on tapes - lol mostly daz - gotta ave the bollocks to drop mixes like that thugh innit - i was just sayin nowadays its just back to back mixing - not even many peeps are throwin accapella's n that
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Cough cough!!
 

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OldskoolDazed (al) said:
innit im gonna rip some more wicked samples i ave on tapes - lol mostly daz - gotta ave the bollocks to drop mixes like that thugh innit - i was just sayin nowadays its just back to back mixing - not even many peeps are throwin accapella's n that

al
Maybe he'll throw something crazy in when he's at GT!!
 

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lol your alright mate, only playin, I try to experiment and I think its great but the sad fact is only a minority give a shit!

I'm well up for experimenting tho, err yeah and I like mixing:p

OldskoolDazed (al) said:
lol ste i was gonna mentiopn ur style and rj's but didnt want favouritism and be biased lol - but was listenin to ur mixes on pal last nite n they fuckin rock

hehehe

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PS Another thought on this, I reckon its much easier to experiment when the music is slower as you have wider scope, also I've noticed that the newer the music (in general) the more formulaic it is, this makes DJ'ing more formulaic, and easier:crazy:

LOVE LIVE OLD SKOOL!!!:rotate:
 

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>>ste ur style is proper 91 92 - nowadays i think tis minotonous - like if u threw summat crazy at gt's it wouldnt go down well in my opinion - unless theres an older crowd
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Yeah init, the next time I play at GT AfterDark, its just gonna be full on madness tunes, whereas at the Cornmill it will be more laid back and I'll throw a few pellas in and that:phones:
 

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ste huxley said:
at the Cornmill it will be more laid back and I'll throw a few pellas in and that:phones:

Lol nice one ste mate ;) Drop us some fat bastards :D

Agree 100% Alan - if i wanna go pay to see a pussy i'll go to red light init. When i goto club i pay to see a dj.......
 

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Sheesh. I must admit that when I am listening to epic/prog house I really like the 'smooth' mixing where you cant tell the join....this is purely to do with the fact that it is the ever evolving nature of the music (along the 12") in which elements creep in and out of hearshot. Otherwise it spoils the soothing journey it takes you on...

Now, theres no excuse in say Old Skool or BigBeat/Breaks type music to cut and jab things in and out because that suits the funky/unpredictable style of the music. Me, I love the dodgy mixin sometimes because its 'fun' I suppose to hear two ace tunes being fudged in!!, I love mixin in and scratchin and clever acca's too because it breaks up the monotiny of the same old tunes......

Anyway, thats wot I rekon anyway! :)crazy: :crazy: :axe: )


Cheerio,

Sirius.
 

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aye nowt like a bit of difference n fekkin about. with me not actually been playin for very long im stil on a bit of a learnin curve but then again i think every 1 is as i dont think n e 1 could ever have mixin fully sussed as ya can always get better thats the beauty of it. but the more confident ive got the more ive played about and i think the more i play the more i will dabble in different things, i go along with the phrase "theres a gap fill it" - coz whats the point in standin there waitin for ur tune that youve just queued up to come round 2 put in when u could slap a cheeky sample/acca inbetween - if it takes 1 persons head off that ur playin 2 then in my view its a job well done. its fekkin better than standin there n lookin good int it.
 

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Agree wid ya 100% Al m8, thats why I got some obbscure mixin planed for the Cornmill night fella.

I too belive that dance music has Evolved over the years, and I hate "the perfect mix" I think anything that sounds to clinical and perfect, also sounds to much like it has been masterd in a studio somwere far, far away ( sorry, went off on one then )

On of my favorite Dj's at the moment is Richie Hawkin ( Of the Plus 8 labble ) he said once in an interview that there are to many exelent dj's in the world right now, but not enough creative and original ones. I have always tried to live by these wise words, and try and throw somthing bizzare into the mix.

At the end of the day, If you are gonna stand out in this world full of ever increasin up and coming dj's, you gotta do somthing a bit diffrent

M Jaxx ;) :phones:
 

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KAOS ------ Noice one Al ( There's no place like home )

I got a nice set of nu & oldskool classics set up for the Cornmill m8

I played the first half hour of it at ComeTogether last Friday

Keeping it under mi hat though fella, but I can tell you I have this busting mix of Voodoo Ray( Us import ) into Know how to start with
 

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dunno about cream, but crasher aint formulaic at the moment. its going thru a rough patch (its just gone monthly cos its weekely events were half full) and this is down to one mand : mauro picotto. half the crasher kids love him, half dont, whici is why they were getting half full.

picotto plays evil dark techno, a million miles away from the happy floaty trance that made crasher popular. he mixes this in with samples from films, other music tunes, south park, warner brothers samples, nasa transcripts, anything he can get his hands on. no one is anywhere close to him, because he doesnt play hardly any tunes by anyone else: they are mostly all made by him or his label, or re working s by him, no one else has access to them, so no one else can play the same set as him. he is an absolute genius, and i am so glad to see techno getting a wider audience. he has a tune that proper frekas me out, yo can just hear children whispering, but you cant hear what they are saying, proper does my head in.

other good dj's (non old skool) are eddie halliwell: scratching and stuff over hard house and hardcore, proper proper mental, and shan, who drops accapellas, film samples and all kinds of crazy shit in and out of his sets (pixie has the cd, and she will tell u it is wellllllll good.)

that is all. :phones:
 
I`ve been saying this aswell - Its so boring at the moment.
Example: I was asked to play at Fluid in Leeds last year playing deep & prog house etc... so I turned up with all my so called underground tunes and so to stop myself falling asleep during my seamless tribal mix I decided to play the ever reliable "Black riot - Just make that move" which cleared the floor - whats the point in trying to educate these planks about the roots of what they are dancing to .

Another thing, decided to sample that Paul Taylor club classics night at Tall trees this NYE - what a pile of dump - You would have thought that like in the old days risks would have been taken regarding tracks and entertaining mixes but the whole night just sounded like a long tedious old school Ibiza compilation.
Does he do this same mix every week? I was guessing what the next mix would be and at what point the overused tune would come in.

There`s only people like Weatherall and Tom Middleton etc.. playing the proper stuff and taking any chances out there - I`m surprised they get booked at all because they are not guranteed to play Paul Van Dyk`s for an Angel twice a night.

Its madness
Pauly P
 
Paul i 100% agree with ya - ya just gotta loook at that retro - collection album - theres nothin on there what isnt on any other compilation what a let down - n paul taylor hasnt changed his mix in yrs - his angels mixes i had on tapes were all the same - rik jones should ave had chance to do the retro album cause rik has some right tunes and can mix wicked id rather ave a oldskool collection instead of tedious mix - throw some accapellas - should be rik who headlines the place cause taylor aint that good - sure he buys tunes from hmv

Paul ya want see the style u love - come check Goodtimes on jul;y 20th meet up with us Daz Willots on ste H is aswell these 2 aswell as rik n ben the res - toally diff nite with a 91 / 92 vibe

happy as hell - a laff n full of somne proper oldskool heads

al

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