hunter s thompson kills himself :(

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Super Freak said:
Sorry but no sympathy for him suicide is a cowards way out, and is just about the crulest thing you could to your family.

i don't think there was any family. Do you know who we are talking about here? a man who caned it for soo long his body could only keep yoghurt and whisky down and who shot at journalists who came near him. Was a totallegend in my opinion. Haven't you read or seen fear and loathing in las vegas?
 

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Dee Dee I hope didnt offend you m8, there has been a suicide in my family too,I still think its the crulest thing you can do to the people you leave behind to grieve you.

Nathan yes I've seen fear and loathing, an amusing film but dont take it a face value, Im not saying he wasnt a monster masher up, but its put across as a completly true story, and well ask your self this if youd been on a simaler weekend could you rember evry thing youd taken and what happened in what order ect. and as for yogurt & wisky err hed av starved to death.
 

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Super Freak said:
and as for yogurt & wisky err hed av starved to death.

Babes he would have killed himself......my mums diet for the last 12 months was soup and brandy......she is no longer with us :( what a load of crap......man can not live off this kinda thing without causing their bodies serious grief :mad:
 

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im not offended, it just stings a bit when someone makes that coment. I think it can be more selfish of us to keep them here when they feel that they cant go on anymore (especially in cases were they are suffering great pain everyday) :)
 

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Super Freak said:
Sorry but no sympathy for him suicide is a cowards way out, and is just about the crulest thing you could to your family.

tut tut :naughty:

i really doubt that he was lookin for sympathy col, and to be pefectly honest if you've read the true story of "fear and loathing in las vegas" you'd know this bloke was a total nutcase. he makes you look like an obsolute lightweight, and that's sayin somethin!! his mind and body was probably that fucked up it was the kindest way for him to go... if someone was dying slowly, in agony from cancer would you still say they was a coward if they comitted suicide?

many people do it for many different reasons, there has to be somethin seriously wrong with anyone for them to take that option. they'd have to be seriously ill and/or disturbed. i certainly don't see killin yaself as an easy way out of anything, it would have to be most definately the only option left, and then it wouldn't be easy.

I'm very suprised at you making a generalised coment like that col.
 

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its funny isnt it......you have to have your dog put to sleep, and everybody understands "you did the best thing, best not to let him suffer etc etc." yet nobody understands it when a human decides that he doesnt want to suffer any longer?????very strange world we live in???
 

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Northern Star said:
Babes he would have killed himself......my mums diet for the last 12 months was soup and brandy......she is no longer with us :( what a load of crap......man can not live off this kinda thing without causing their bodies serious grief :mad:

his body was on its last legs anyway think yoghurt and whisky was the least of his worries.

At of interest superfreak how old are you?
 

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nathan said:
his body was on its last legs anyway think yoghurt and whisky was the least of his worries.

At of interest superfreak how old are you?

Hmmmm more curious by the minute......if he was living off yog and whiskey thats a sure fire way of killing yourself so why put a bullet through yer head :confused: i dont get it........ :$
 

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im 34 but i fail to see the relivance.
Im sorry but i think susicide is wrong, not such a contraversal view.
Euthenaisa for the termanly ill is a difrent matter and much more complicated.
Sorry if I upset any body, but my veiws aren't unreasonable and I was not making light of the subject, and further more I stick by my views. I am making no further posts in this thread.
 

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Northern Star said:
Hmmmm more curious by the minute......if he was living off yog and whiskey thats a sure fire way of killing yourself so why put a bullet through yer head :confused: i dont get it........ :$

what i would have though babes, if this was the case... he was obviously an alcoholic and in a bad way. very ill in body and mind, more than likely in extream pain a lot of the time, physically and mentally, he was probably (in his own mind) too far down the line to come back from it, and just decided enough was enough.

when people are that far gone there's not a lot anyone can do because they don't want to help themselves. it's very sad when things like that happen. :(
 

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i read the book a couple of times and couldnt get my head round it, was it two people in the car or just one :confused:

and also the film is so damn near the same as the book. i found that strange because usuallythe books are difrent slightly...

anybody agree?

yeah, there was 2 people in the car. the book was extreamly hard to get your head round, took me ages to read it cause i kept havin to read over sentences again and again to try and understand what he meant by things. he used some really obscure turns of phrase and slang in it. very difficult to understand.

As for the film, you'll find the narration in the film is to the exact words of the book. it is word for word ! which was really weird. :mad:
 

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Super Freak said:
im 34 but i fail to see the relivance.
Im sorry but i think susicide is wrong, not such a contraversal view.
Euthenaisa for the termanly ill is a difrent matter and much more complicated.
Sorry if I upset any body, but my veiws aren't unreasonable and I was not making light of the subject, and further more I stick by my views. I am making no further posts in this thread.

i agree that cols age has no relevance at all. :naughty:

the definition of controversial is: causing disagreement or discussion which means your view is controversial as people are disagreeing with your comment and discussing the issue.

Euthanasia is not suicide, it's when someone kills or assists someone who is terminally ill or very old to die. it's more along the lines of murder.

who says your views arent unreasonable? you? fair enough, thats your view and your stickin to it (without a lot of substance shown, granted) and i respect you for that, but why spit your dummy out when people don't agree with a comment you've made.

nobody thinks you're making light of the subject m8, just a few of us think you've made a comment without a lot of thought on quite a sensitive subject, especially as we all don't know the full story yet really.
 
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its sad to hear that he had no other way out except to take his own life:( so my wish for him now is that he feels peace

suicide is a sensitive subject which always raises intense emotion and often controversy .. people take their own lives for many many different reasons and yes they leave behind intense grief that does not heal in the same way a non-suicide bereavement does ... it is important for us all to hold the thought of 'who am i to judge'
we only ever have our own unique experience and feelings, and yes we may have been suicidal ourselves, but for someone to actually follow through with it shows a level of willingess to no longer experience the feelings and suffering they incur by staying alive..
and who are we to judge whether it is right or wrong, they are doing are what they feel is right for them, and sadly they do not see any other way out ... what a desparate view of life they must have if suicide is the only route of non-suffering..

i lost my dearest brother/cousin Peter to suicide 17yrs ago and the pain is indiscribable.. i know that the pain he suffered before his death must have equalled our suffering at the loss of him or he would never have had the courage to end his own suffering .. god bless him and i shall love him for always:love:
 

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I can understand why people would have such different view on suicide depending on experience etc and everyones opinion is valid IMO. My grandad hanged himself which i feel was a selfish act in that it meant that his daughter found him hanging which no one should have to go through but on the other hand i know he missed my grandma so much since she died that he was deeply unhappy and it must have been completely what he wanted so i respect that.

I'm also very close to a family who's 20 year old son/brother killed himself and i feel that was very much a selfish act as i saw the devestation that was left behind him and i've seen what his daughter (now 13) has gone through.

So SF i fully understand what you mean but on the other hand there's an exception to every rule.
 

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talking from experience a lot of people who do hang thereselves are mentally ill and don't have the rational to think about what they are actually doing,
My friends hung himself 2 years ago, the exact date being the first day of the world cup 2002, I was one of the people who found him and cut him down.

after the intial sadness, I did become angry how he could do this to his family, his friends and most of all his Girlfriend, it is selfish and i did feel anger towards him but at the end of the day, He was depressed, he wasn't thinking right in his head and he must have been so messed up he did think it was the best way to go.


It is the most awful way for someone / or people to find you, seeing them, its completely surreal, you have so many thoughts going through your head. Its probably the worst thing anyone could see. If he'd taken tablets or some other means it wouldn't have been as bad but who knows???


EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION, I TOTALLY AGREE IT IS TOTALLY SELFISH BUT ALOT OF EPOPLE WHO DO IT ARE SO MESSED UP IN THEIR HEAD THEY TRUELLY BELIEVE ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.