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Amelie

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These things are easily worth the mega bucks they cost. Forget the fact that they are so fucking huge you have to totally re-arrange the room to accomodate them, forget the fact that they look like summat from Space 1999, forget the fact that they make such a racket you need ear plugs to avoid damage- because they come with a state of the art cleaning brush that makes it all worth while.

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grover

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hello am.... can you explain what one is?

i have a mental pic of someone washing one of these lol...

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Amelie

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grover said:
hello am.... can you explain what one is?

i have a mental pic of someone washing one of these lol...

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I will let Jonno do the explaining- i see the king of spunking cash is keeping quiet on this. I dunno why, i would be dead proud of spending so much on such a quality record cleaning machine lol, fuck it- the 'special cleaning brush' alone must be worth best part of £500.

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Jonno

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Lol, I bought one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTH-RCM-PRO-...ryZ48648QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's a big old beast as well, and it makes a right racket when the vacuum is on, but man it gets the grime out of the grooves :)

One thing though is that it came with a "Super Brush" which is supposedly the "most effective pure bristle brush we have found for use with these machines", sound good eh :eyebrow: when it arrived it even came in it's own sealed envelope, and what was it? A nail brush. A 79p wooden nail brush! Still I have to admit it does the job.

One gripe I do have with it is that the clamping device does seem to damage the labels slightly if clamped too tight, but as luck would have it there's an accessory you can buy to get round this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....tToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
 

Elev8/Levit8

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Fucking mint that guv'nor :thumbsup: :king:

I bet it talks n'all dunnit...
"Danger Will Robinson, Danger!"
 

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Jonno

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As far as I know all top end record cleaning machines work in the same way, and all require manual application of fluid and manual brushing (even £1500+ machines by Loricraft).

The way the Moth (and others) work is the record is clamped in place (this is a screw arrangement), then the motor turned on to rotate the record. Cleaning solution is then applied manually to the entire record with the brush in both directions (clockwise and anti). The record is then turned over, clamped in again, the vacuum turned on, and the fluid and muck is sucked out of the grooves through a tube arrangement which is covered in velvet pads - again both directions. I don't know what the motor is for the vacuum but I'd guess it was a fair size judging by the noise.

That's it though - it's just a custom built vacuum device really.
 

blue jammer

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Have you got a load of records that need cleaning lots?

Just curious as I couldn't justify that outlay on something like that, when for a couple of quid you can get mr sheen and a duster and do them one by one - once cleaned they usually don't need cleaning again!

Or are you just really messy and cover them with foods and see what this machine can get off?! :D
 

Elev8/Levit8

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blue jammer said:
Or are you just really messy and cover them with foods and see what this machine can get off?! :D

...or maybe he likes certain records "a bit too much"...
We'd need Amelie to confirm one way or the other I reck...
I can see it now...

Amelie: "Didn't you just clean that one yesterday, Jonno?"
Jonno: "Yes, but it's, err, got dirty again"
Amelie: "What's that stuck to it? Errrrrrrrr ya filthy bugger!"
Jonno: "But it's kitty jizz... honest! Gets right in the damn weave & everything!"
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Amelie

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blue jammer said:
Have you got a load of records that need cleaning lots?

Just curious as I couldn't justify that outlay on something like that, when for a couple of quid you can get mr sheen and a duster and do them one by one - once cleaned they usually don't need cleaning again!

Or are you just really messy and cover them with foods and see what this machine can get off?! :D
Yeah, to be fair some of the ones that appear damaged have actually come up playing fine now. It was bought mainly for the more expensive etc that we either already had and were suffering crackle wise, or new stuff that we had bought that was just too knackerd in present condition to sell on or keep for enjoyment. An example is the job lot of hip hop we got from a car boot, they had a touch of water damage to some sleeves, and the actual vinyl was covered in some manner of matter i don't even want to think about. I have tried cleaning these by hand, and although they did look and sound a little better- i am hoping the Moth gives a near perfect result. In this box was at least £100 worth on records, all quite rare- so if it works then it had stopped us having to buy these at full price elsewhere (we got the box for a fiver). This is what i keep telling myself lol to justify the cost of the machine.
 

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blue jammer said:
Just curious as I couldn't justify that outlay on something like that, when for a couple of quid you can get mr sheen and a duster and do them one by one - once cleaned they usually don't need cleaning again!
Whilst the outlay is sizeable it's not huge. Oddly enough time saved alone justifies the price, i.e. for the time it take to clean records by hand, if I do that time as overtime at work instead, then the Moth has paid for itself in a suprisingly short amount of time.

Records cleaned by the Moth are far cleaner than by hand as well.
 

Amelie

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Jonno said:
Whilst the outlay is sizeable it's not huge. Oddly enough time saved alone justifies the price, i.e. for the time it take to clean records by hand, if I do that time as overtime at work instead, then the Moth has paid for itself in a suprisingly short amount of time.

Records cleaned by the Moth are far cleaner than by hand as well.

Ahhh, but you are a work shy fucking fop who refuses point blank to even entertain the idea of overtime. I think you just bought it because you are indeed a right lazy cunto and it stops you having to do them by hand, plus with the added bonus of actually doing them better. Its just a hunch i have, thats all.
 

blue jammer

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Great replies there Jonno & Amelie.

If I had the money and needed a load of tunes buying, I'd probably do the same.

How long does cleaning 1 record actually take then?

Can we have some pics of it in action :p

The name of the machine makes me laugh, 'The Moth' makes me think of the Mothfather or sommat mad :mad:
 

Amelie

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blue jammer said:
Great replies there Jonno & Amelie.

If I had the money and needed a load of tunes buying, I'd probably do the same.

How long does cleaning 1 record actually take then?

Can we have some pics of it in action :p

The name of the machine makes me laugh, 'The Moth' makes me think of the Mothfather or sommat mad :mad:

Aye, the name Moth is a bit daft but i have somewhat got used to it as we bought a Moth single deck a month or so ago to play classical in the front room (cos the other decks can damage them apparantly).

I think the record take about say 2 mins to clean with the machine, but you only have to put the liquid on then it does the rest, as i said- its terribly noisey- not pleasant at all. I was not convinced at first,especially when the 'nail brush' came out of the bag- i mean, if Jonno walked in onme touching vinyl with a brush that bristly i can imagine he would have freaked. What can i say, i seems to do the job and not cause damage! The few we have done, and played them before and then after- the sound quality really is different (altough i do love a good crackle at the start lol). The vinyl looks all shiny and the minor scratchs appear improved- how this can be who knows (perhaps dirt sitting in scratchs or summat?).

BJ, if you have any records that you think need the extra clean, feel free to drop them off or post them to us and we will give them a go. Anyone in fact, as long as we are not flooded i don't mind doing them for folks if it means they can enjoy some of their more damaged ones better. We even have these funny bags to put them in after to reduce static, or keep them clean- something like that!