Problem with pc after installing some components

[RetroAndy]

I have friends pc that i have installed a new hard drive and new memory. Since installing the components the pc will not boot or even beep at start up.

Basically nothing happens other than power to the fan and drives etc.

I have tried booting with none of the drives connected and with the old memory back in but still nothing. Even tried without memory and still nothing.

I suspect its the motherboard although i am not sure how it could have happened. The memory that was replaced was 256 ddr2700 and was replaced with 2 512 ddr3200. I did some research before and am sure that should have been fine.

The only thing i can think of that may have cause it was the second hd was a little tight installing with the cooler fitted but it did fit without too much trouble. I did release one of the cooler clips though as i was gonna remove the cooler to make it easier but i decided against it and fastened it back in with no trouble.

I have had some advice about getting the mobo tested but i thought i would ask see if anyone had any other suggestions i could try.

I read something about resetting the cmos settings but i wouldnt have thought i would need to do that just for installing new memory

Any suggestions would be welcome

Andy

 

[flange]

Try booting it with all cards removed apart from graphics cards. Do not connect any hard drives. put the known working memory back in.

You have to eliminate the failed component by process of elimination.

also try re-seating the CPU - take the heatsink + Fan off - take the cpu out the socket and sit it back in again - then carefully refit the fan.

You only need memory, cpu and mobo + Graphics card (if not onboard) working to get an initial boot and display. so disconnect everything else and give it a try!.

Hope this helps!

 

[Judderz]

Also, you have put diff mhz memory in, go into bios and change the setting to recognise the mhz change, (some do it automatically)

 

[johns_ar]

No beeps when you turn on the power?

If no motherboard speaker go to computer shop theyll probs give you one for nowt or 10p or something.

It's a start...

No beeps...its fucked

 

[RetroAndy]

No beeps when you turn on the power?

If no motherboard speaker go to computer shop theyll probs give you one for nowt or 10p or something.

It's a start...

No beeps...its fucked

Andy

aye deffo no beeps and it just doesnt seem like anything is happening other than the power to the fan. Cant see any led's on the board either.

Was gonna take it in somewhere tomoz to see if they could test the board but doesnt sound promising.

Am more bothered about how it may have happened tbh. Was thinking of trying the memory in my pc but was worried that if the sticks are faulty they make knacker my pc up.

Also bothered that it may have been my fault when fitting the hd but i didnt think that there would have been any damaged caused.

Andy

 

[RetroAndy]

Also, you have put diff mhz memory in, go into bios and change the setting to recognise the mhz change, (some do it automatically)

phil the pc wont boot or post mate so cant access the bios bud.

Andy

 

[blue jammer]

The only thing i can think of that may have cause it was the second hd was a little tight installing with the cooler fitted but it did fit without too much trouble. I did release one of the cooler clips though as i was gonna remove the cooler to make it easier but i decided against it and fastened it back in with no trouble.

Do you mean the CPU cooling fan? If so, you might have fucked that like, happened to me once when trying to fit a new CPU Fan, it was really stuck on and ended up nearly snapping the fucker getting it out, once I'd finished it wouldn't boot up, so ended up putting a spare CPU in and all was fine.

 

[RetroAndy]

Do you mean the CPU cooling fan? If so, you might have fucked that like, happened to me once when trying to fit a new CPU Fan, it was really stuck on and ended up nearly snapping the fucker getting it out, once I'd finished it wouldn't boot up, so ended up putting a spare CPU in and all was fine.

Its possible mate but i am not 100% sure. I dont have a spare cpu to try either though.

I have had a good luck at the processor like i was advised but i was told the cpu should be stuck in the socket on the board but in actual fact its stuck to the bottom of the heatsink and fan. Maybe its supposed to be like that but tbh i aint really had to do much in the way of fixing cpu's etc

Andy

 

[blue jammer]

CPU's meant to be seated in the socket on the mobo, it's possible the layer of thermal compound that is between them has come away with any movement?

Not sounding good tbh, if you can have a close look at it, make sure none of the pins are bent before re-seating it.

 

[RetroAndy]

CPU's meant to be seated in the socket on the mobo, it's possible the layer of thermal compound that is between them has come away with any movement?

Not sounding good tbh, if you can have a close look at it, make sure none of the pins are bent before re-seating it.

There not thats for sure. But it must be the compound thats stuck it to the heatsink. Any suggestions as i may need the info off the processor.

Will it be hard to prise of or am i best leaving it

Andy

 

[blue jammer]

I've never tried to get compound off a cpu before, so not sure on the best way of trying to do that without fucking it completely :S

Ask your mate if he can remem what CPU it is and try get a spare, borrowed or sommat to try ?

If it is the CPU, much easier to replace that than the mobo!

 

[turpieaj]

Most motherboards would boot even with a dislodged CPU cooler - as the board would post and then the thermal trip would shut down the power shortly after.

To me this sounds like the old classic case of 5,000 volts of low current static electricity frying compenents that are happy to run at 5 or 12 volts. anti static wristbands anyone

Andy

 

[johns_ar]

aye the thing will boot even if the cpu fan aint attached...youll get a warning etc but if your getting next to nothing its likely the board is fucked

or the power supply....

 

[Taff]

No Beeps = Fooked CPU i'm afraid...

 

[johns_ar]

More likely fucked motherboard or power supply...

Wouldnt worry about taking the processor out either, its more than likely the thermal paste will be non existant now anyways but once youve found out the problem make sure u whack some more on when you put the thing back together

u not got a pc at work u can swap bits & bobs on for this one mate?

 

[sirius]

sounds a bit daft, but you have checked that your ram is FULLY pressed in tight havent you?

I once upgraded a hard drive and ram at work, and thought Id totally f'ked the computer up, as it wouldnt do anything.....you switch it on and it just whirrs and theres no monitor or anything showing. The clip was in the ram slot on the ram card, as it should be, but it was ever so slightly on an angle in the contacts....litterally about 1mm higher at one end than the other. Pushed them down harder, and switched back on, and hey presto, it was all fine, and it wasnt dead after all.

What about 'slaving' the hard drive with one you know boots up? Use the new one as the slave and set the pins accordingly.

Im no PC expert though!

Sirius.

 

[doolz]

andy

remove any cards that arnt needed in teh machien
reseat the graffix card if it has one
reseat the ram if theres more than one piece then try them one at a time and in different slots

also is teh ram a matched pair and if there are 4 slots for ram in teh machine that are 2 diff colours then for teh slots then match the colurs when inserting pairs

also can u try the original ram u had back in teh machine to cofirm you dont just have a duff bit of new ram

hope this helps

 

[RetroAndy]

First of all thanks to all those that have taken the time to reply and help me out of this sticky situation. Especially Jammer who i spoke to on the old dog and bone.

The problem was caused when i realised there was little room to slide the hard drive in its bay so i released the clip on the cooler to give me mpre space and as i understood it the cpu should have been attached to the board. Well i was wrong, the cpu was welded to the cooler so when i released the clip it brought it unseated it.

I was a little unsure about how to get the cpu off the coller as it was well stuck on and i assumed (wrongly) that if i placed the cooler back on where it should the cpu would reseat. Obviously it didnt and hence my prob.

Up until now i hadn't really messed about with cpu's and mobo's so was in unchartered territory but i took it to the local pc shop who managed to unstick the cpu and reseat it for me without causing any damage to it.

So its all working fine now. But i have learnt something new anyways.

Thanks again

Andy

 

[turpieaj]

I took it to the local pc shop who managed to unstick the cpu and reseat it for me without causing any damage to it.

Some dirty fecker must have had a good old chug on the old heatsink - Harry Munk doesn't have much thermal conducting properties I would have thought lol

Andy

 

[turpieaj]

Would ya believe it, someone in works had the same problem on their PC, ive just bent the fecking pins on the processor trying to remove the heatsink lol

Andy