Selling mixes on Ebay

[JACKG]

My 1st ever thread this as Iv only recently become a member.

Iv been selling my own old skool mixes on ebay now for just over 6 months or so and up until today it was going really well.

My ebay I.D. is NIVLAG77 if you wanna have a look

Everybody I traded with was always really pleased with the CDs and I was earnin some much needed cash and so I thought everbody was happy

However

Today all my auctions have been removed and Iv recieved the following email from ebay

"because the intellectual property rights owner notified us, by a signed statement, that your listing or the item itself infringes their copyright, trademark, or other intellectual property rights owned by them."

And that if I put anymore on there gonna suspend my account and the British Phonographic Industry Limited may take further action ?

Im not sure if what I was doing is a criminal offence or a civil matter where I could be sued?

Anyone know?

Also seeing as I cant sell them no more Id like to submit at least 1 mix so you nice people can download it.

Thing is Im not to techy and don't know how to do this or what I need. Id be happy to send someone a free CD(s) as I think you need someone/thing to "host" it
Or perhaps I could on my PC (Its pretty old one though) but just not sure how it works.

Any help or info would be really appreciated and thanks in advance

 

[Konspiracy]

Have you been selling just your own mixes or downloaded sets eg Graeme Park / Sasha ones..?

 

[Konspiracy]

If you want to submit your own mixes to this site then all you need(as far as I can tell) is your own (or someone elses) webspace where you can host it

 

[ilovepiano]

When you by a record/tape/cd whatever, you don't own the recording. You only buy the right to play it and listen to it in your own home. You can't therefore re-record the records (i.e. make a mix tape) and then sell it, as you're breaking the copyright laws and yes, you could be sued.

Something along the lines of... "Unauthorised copying, hiring, renting, public performance and broadcasting of this record prohibited"

You'd think it was bad if someone was selling a copied album on Ebay, but selling mix tapes is the same thing really.

 

[JACKG]

These are mixes that I have done myself. phones:

Just like in the mixes section Iv picked the tunes and mixed them myself. I wouldn't copy say a Fantazia house collection CD as I know that would of been piracy. Not too sure how copyright works but probably did need the owners permission.

Iv definately not ripped anyone off or tried to con people - my feedback speaks for itself.

If you have a look at my feedback Im NIVLAG77 and view a few of the items Iv sold you will be able to see what Iv been selling. Iv done a total of 5 mixes and they have sold quite well, only put 1 on out of interest and was really pleasantly supprised by the responce/demand.

Hmmm, so I need webspace.

Can I get this for free?

Or would someone be kind enough to let me have some of theres for a few free mix CDs.

 

[JACKG]

Here is a link to my feedback page if it helps:

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=nivlag77&item=-1&frompage=222

Cheers

 

[ilovepiano]

I wouldn't copy say a Fantazia house collection CD as I know that would of been piracy. Not too sure how copyright works but probably did need the owners permission.

Any form of copying without permission from the copyright holder is piracy. Everyone does it like, I mean, who doesn't download albums, music, films, whatever? But I'd be carefull about flogging them, especially through a major website like Ebay. :S

I know it isn't doing anyone any harm when you make a mix tape, we all do it, but unfortunately but unless the artists of the tunes you recorded have been dead for more than 50 years, then the copyright still stands. But even then, any recordings will still be copyrighted by the studios, it only means you could do a cover of a song or something and not have to seek permission.

One thing to bear in mind about copyright is this. Either the artist/composer, or a publishing company will own the rights to the song itself, but the rights to the actual physical recording made in the studio are also copyrighted - meaning you can't reproduce them in any way. Technically you shouldn't even lend a cd to a mate... LOLOLOL

 

[dj_jam]

guess he took em off as theres nowt for sale!!

you honestly cant do that can you?? thats naughty...and law breaking....

but making money.....so......feck it eh

 

[JACKG]

Ebay has removed all my auctions. Most had bids on them.

It was a good earner for me which was welcome but I also made a lot of people happy with the CDs - many still trade with me outside ebay.

I suppose all good things come to an end but it is a bit if a bummer for me

Anyone be able to help with the webspace I need to put a mix available for all OSA members.

As I said earlier Id be happy to send them a few of the mixes I was sellin if they can host it.

 

[GavinH]

That's a shame Jack. However, you can still sell me more rare tunes if you like!! That's still OK.

On another point, if the blurb says "no unauthorised copying, performance etc" then how do DJ's get away with playing tunes in clubs, as this is a public performance of the record???/

 

[lastnightadj]

On another point, if the blurb says "no unauthorised copying, performance etc" then how do DJ's get away with playing tunes in clubs, as this is a public performance of the record???/

Because the clubs pay PRS fees (which are then distributed to all registeredartists)

As do all shops/cafes etc where music is played phones:

 

[ilovepiano]

Because the clubs pay PRS fees (which are then distributed to all registeredartists)

As do all shops/cafes etc where music is played phones:

Aye, and that's also why the Wetherspoon chain of pubs sells beer so cheap - coz they don't pay for a licence to play music.

 

[JACKG]

In an ideal world Id get permission but I reckon it would be very difficult to find the owners of the copyright never mind the costs involved.

Im not some proffesional outfit and a fair bit of what I made just got spent on my addiction (tunes).

I used to by tapes from clubs and Id be suprised if permission was obtained, especially when DJs play bootlegs.

Just want to get my mixes heard out there by those who enjoy the old classics.

 

[turpieaj]

copyright shenanigans

Beats me how they work this one out. Im allowed to punt Videos CDs DVD's and Vinyl, surely the draconian law has been broken there, also what about all the peeps on here who sell via GEMM and Netsounds??

If this is illegal surely these sites should be pulled down and also Ebay should not allow a category as such to sell things like that

Andy

 

[ilovepiano]

Beats me how they work this one out. Im allowed to punt Videos CDs DVD's and Vinyl, surely the draconian law has been broken there, also what about all the peeps on here who sell via GEMM and Netsounds??

If this is illegal surely these sites should be pulled down and also Ebay should not allow a category as such to sell things like that

Andy

Aye but if you're selling an original, then thats ok - the royalties for that particular tape/record/cd/video will already have been payed to whoever they go to when it was bought brand new. There's nothing in the copyright rules that restricts you from selling on a product that you own, you're just not allowed to rent it out, or sell copies.

 

[V.D.R]

Beats me how they work this one out. Im allowed to punt Videos CDs DVD's and Vinyl, surely the draconian law has been broken there, also what about all the peeps on here who sell via GEMM and Netsounds??

If this is illegal surely these sites should be pulled down and also Ebay should not allow a category as such to sell things like that

Andy

If you legally want to make a mixed CD you need to approach all labels included in the mix and they will state whether you can use their material and whether they want paymet for it.
They own the royalties, so they're not going to let you earn money off what they own!!!!
If you sell a original records, Tapes DVD,s they are still how they were manufactured so there is now manipulation or copying but if you use it to make a new item thats copyright, but the 3 party has to make a complaint!