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JACKG

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Im about to connect my decks to my PC. I would have done this some time ago but Im faced with a logistical problem...

My PC is in another room to my decks (Its not possible to move them any closer :eek: )

What Id like to know is can I connect my mixer directly to the PC? I have a vestax PCV 275 mixer.

Or will I have to connect my PC via the amp (which is slighly more awkward)

If so on the back of my amp there are only 2 Record Outs - One for tape and the other for Minidisc - Which would I use, or could I use both?

Any help would be appreciated, need to know before I go and buy the lead. :thumbsup:
 

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You can connect your mixer directly to your PC via the soundcard's mic input. You'll need a phono to mic lead, i.e. a Left / Right (possibly record or monitor output) connection on the mixer to the mic input (same connection as a walkman headphone usually) on the PC.

You can get seriously long leads for this pretty cheap. I used to have a 5m lead and I'm fairly sure they do 10m cheap too, probably longer.
 

ilovepiano

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Jonno said:
You can connect your mixer directly to your PC via the soundcard's mic input.


:eek: ooooooh no, you want the LINE input! The signal from your mixer wil be too high for the MIC input and you risk damaging the soundcard.

You'll get a 10m one no probs:thumbsup:
 

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ilovepiano said:
:eek: ooooooh no, you want the LINE input! The signal from your mixer wil be too high for the MIC input and you risk damaging the soundcard.

You'll get a 10m one no probs:thumbsup:

I think I'll be puttin it into my Line input lol :S :$
 

ilovepiano

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placid said:
i pain 30 £ for a 10m and it is worth every penny.



Dude. :|

Spending a fortune on audio cables makes next to f*ck all difference. All this "oxygen free copper" bollocks, is just a gimmick, as nearly all copper wire is oxygen free.

The electrons will carry the signal down the cable at the same speed (i.e. 186,000 miles per sec) whether you have a cable that cost £1 or a cable that costs £100 and there's no way you'd be able to hear a difference.

Also, gold plated connectors don't make the sound quality any better. They're only plated with gold because gold doesn't corrode. :thumbsup:
 

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Dude..my 6.99 cable stopped coming out of one channel about a month after i got it, i have to connect it and disconnect it alot, i've had this one for nearly a year and have had no problems.

If you really belive that cables make no difference whatsoever then get cheap shit.

It's up to you
 

JACKG

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Well Iv bought the cables as per my earlier post. £3 delivered :p

Have to wait n see how I get on.

Idealy plan to get a laptop at some stage to make life easier anyway :)
 

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Ponka said:
I think that should be metres per second m/s


The speed of light (in a vacuum) is exactly 299,792,458 metres per second

or... 186,282.397 miles per second

or... 670,616,629.4 miles per hour

:thumbsup:
 

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ilovepiano said:
Dude. :|

Spending a fortune on audio cables makes next to f*ck all difference. All this "oxygen free copper" bollocks, is just a gimmick, as nearly all copper wire is oxygen free.

The electrons will carry the signal down the cable at the same speed (i.e. 186,000 miles per sec) whether you have a cable that cost £1 or a cable that costs £100 and there's no way you'd be able to hear a difference.

Also, gold plated connectors don't make the sound quality any better. They're only plated with gold because gold doesn't corrode. :thumbsup:

Mmmm, agree on the old gold plated thing but the dury is still out on your thoughts on wire quality... i found cheep wires seriously dodgy once, maybe its different for car audio sets ups which i know quite a bit about but once using cheep cables caused a friends car to set on fire because the wires were s**t

id get a decent quality regardless..whats the point in havin a decent set up let down by crap wires..
It does make a difference.......prob means naff all to u but thats my thoughts anyhow:thumbsup:
 

ilovepiano

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kells&tots said:
id get a decent quality regardless..whats the point in havin a decent set up let down by crap wires..
It does make a difference.......prob means naff all to u but thats my thoughts anyhow:thumbsup:


Yeah but the only thing going down an audio cable is electricity, so it's either going to go down the wire and make your speaker work, or it won't go down the wire because it's broken.

If you're having issues with interference from the mains, or fluoroescent strip lights, then make sure the cables are "screened". I swear this is true, lol I once had an unscreened cable going from an electric guitar into the amp that was picking up the raido from a taxi firm!

Overpriced cables are just a gimmick, the only difference in quality you will hear will be produced from a placebo effect.

Spend as much as you can afford on your amp and speakers.:thumbsup:
 

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Buy good amps and speakers aswell.

As soon as a signal is going through a cable , you are losing quality.

the better cable you get, the less quality you lose.

If you can't see or understand this, then you are seriously misguided.
 

ilovepiano

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placid said:
the better cable you get, the less quality you lose.

If you can't see or understand this, then you are seriously misguided.



Couple of articles here

http://www.cobaltcable.com/pdfs/Common Cable Myths Explained.pdf

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

http://sound.westhost.com/cables-p2.htm#spkr-leads

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1790/




I'm not entirely sure how credible these sources are, but given that they state exactly the same as what I was taught in phsycho-acoustics at university, my money would be on them being accurate.
 

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ilovepiano said:
The speed of light (in a vacuum) is exactly 299,792,458 metres per second

or... 186,282.397 miles per second

or... 670,616,629.4 miles per hour

:thumbsup:


Agreed but since when does electricity or an electric signal move at the speed of light ???

The speed at which an electronic charge moves down a wire (or through the electron sea) is proportional to the value of the electric current. On first glance I just thought you had confused the si units of velocity (thinking that the m in ms-1 stood for miles when it stands for metres) but the value is wrong too.

Electronic charge moving through the electron sea is proportional to the current low speed = low current high speed = high current. So you couldn't know the speed at which the charge flows without first knowing the current (in amperes) and also the thickness of the wire.
 

ilovepiano

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Ponka said:
Agreed but since when does electricity or an electric signal move at the speed of light ???

The speed at which an electronic charge moves down a wire (or through the electron sea) is proportional to the value of the electric current.


Yup, you're absolutely right, but it ain't all that far off! :thumbsup: