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Yeah bud, I know, I was just showing which ones mine were - and why the ones in your link at the top were also something more than the average on appearance. :thumbsup:

I think the new Technics will be better than the PLX1000 due to the way they've rebuilt their motors and motion control, but, to me, it looks like the PLX1000s are the closest match to the original Technics, particularly in terms of torque, start-up, wow and flutter, the weight and the rubberised metal base and platter, which I don't think many of the clone-technics decks have.

I'd be chuffed to have some of the Stanton 150s, looks a truly cracking deck. I'd also be happy with some PLX1000s!

I already own a pair stantons 150 first genration and they are great decks and they will hold the beat perfectly without doing anything on some records and on some records I do lightly have to have my large finger on the platter to get them to mix with some records. You can hold the spindle on mine but their is to much power in the motor so it does nothing.
On shit decks and I owned a few in my time they will never mix what ever you do.
 

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Yeah bud, I know, I was just showing which ones mine were - and why the ones in your link at the top were also something more than the average on appearance. :thumbsup:

I think the new Technics will be better than the PLX1000 due to the way they've rebuilt their motors and motion control, but, to me, it looks like the PLX1000s are the closest match to the original Technics, particularly in terms of torque, start-up, wow and flutter, the weight and the rubberised metal base and platter, which I don't think many of the clone-technics decks have.

I'd be chuffed to have some of the Stanton 150s, looks a truly cracking deck. I'd also be happy with some PLX1000s!

The reloops 7000 get amazing reviews if you want a cracking set of decks the reloops are the ones to go for, they rate these better than the new Technics most of the reviews slate the new Technics say they are way over priced, they say why buy these when you could buy the reloops 7000 for a lot less money and they have better features.

Reloop RP-7000 - Reloop

These would definitely be a consideration for me to buy second hand. :thumbsup:

and to be honest the second hand Mk2 Technics are just to much to pay your looking at 350.00 for something that's over 20 years old. I guess if people want to pay that that's up to them, if they have a thing about Technics. I could afford to buy a pair but I think I would just go for the reloops am not into the whole Technic's thing.
 
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and to be honest the second hand Mk2 Technics are just to much to pay your looking at 350.00 for something that's over 20 years old. I guess if people want to pay that that's up to them, if they have a thing about Technics. I could afford to buy a pair but I think I would just go for the reloops am not into the whole Technic's thing.

Tbh honest Greg the fact they are still holding the price after all these yrs says something !!!!! they are a solid unit and if looked after remain solid, the 1210mk2s I have which I brought off a scratch dj from notts are in fantastic nick, and prior to him owning them they where hire out units, so I dread to think how many hrs they have done over the yrs:confused::fekked::confused:
I do need to replace one decks RCA cables has it got caught in the hingde on my flight case ( I will get both replaced though) not something I fancy having a go at myself:S

My mate has 1200 techs and stantons and he says he always goes back to his techs, and he says his stantons have been back n forth to be fixed x amount of times...

My other mate puts on quite a few events and I asked him do any of the djs stipulate what turntable they want (tbh he laughed n said not many use um now) but he said when they do its always a techs...

I guess it boils down to what your budget is, I paid 500 for mine also got the flight cases, a rak amp, and two fek off speakers, which I cant use, has when on one bar is to loud for the house phones:phones:phones:
 

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Tbh honest Greg the fact they are still holding the price after all these yrs says something !!!!! they are a solid unit and if looked after remain solid, the 1210mk2s I have which I brought off a scratch dj from notts are in fantastic nick, and prior to him owning them they where hire out units, so I dread to think how many hrs they have done over the yrs:confused::fekked::confused:
I do need to replace one decks RCA cables has it got caught in the hingde on my flight case ( I will get both replaced though) not something I fancy having a go at myself:S

My mate has 1200 techs and stantons and he says he always goes back to his techs, and he says his stantons have been back n forth to be fixed x amount of times...

My other mate puts on quite a few events and I asked him do any of the djs stipulate what turntable they want (tbh he laughed n said not many use um now) but he said when they do its always a techs...

I guess it boils down to what your budget is, I paid 500 for mine also got the flight cases, a rak amp, and two fek off speakers, which I cant use, has when on one bar is to loud for the house phones:phones:phones:

People who have technics will always fire up and defend their technics that's why I have avoided saying anything,. I have read people saying the same as you but the other way round they have owned technics but like stanons better their is nothing I have read anywhere to suggest that one is better than the other.

If you look on youtube their is a guy who does a side by side test of each and he does not say one is better than the other and he has used technics all his life. Things go wrong with the the Technics as much as the Stanton their was a guy on here recently say his tornarm had snapped of you know the post. my stantons were not a lot less than your technic I only £30 less for them if you include my mixer as well but that was brand new. My stanions have a few marks on them but I was shocked when I bought them and what good condition they are in. I am amazed by the performance of them and how good they are. So am one of many people who are happy with their Stanton.

They don't just get bad reviews and a lot of people have been happy with them have a look around the internet you will find plenty of people who are happy with them. :thumbsup:

and their was one guy on here who said they were the best turntables he ever used.
 
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and just to add on to what I said this post was never about are Technics been better than Stantons it was about how much I liked the looked of the new Stanson, I personally don't buy anything that old it got nothing to do with how much I like the Technics or not, I would not even purchase Hi Fi from the 90's it just a little bit to old for me, Only my tape player but you don't have much choice in that the latest tape player I liked that was released was the yamaha range of tape players they look great and performance was really good.

and if I was going to purchase a set of decks I think I would go for the reloops 7000 what are now the industry standards for DJ's to use.

Saying that am still tempted to buy the new Stantons they are by far the best looking turntable out their.


My dream tape player would be the nakamichi dragon cassette deck you don't even have to turn the tape over it does it for you but you won't pick one of them up for less than a £1000 now a days. My brother had a mate who owned one.
 
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https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B00011SJL0/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_cmps_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

If you read through the reviews on amazon, a guy on their says he prefers his stantons over his technics plenty of people lovin them on the amazon reviews :thumbsup:

instead of reading I will copy and paste a few here for you.

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As a DJ of 32 years, I have used every turntable you can imagine from the cheapest belt drive to Technics 1200's and while the 1200's still reigns supreme, a new era of turntables are ready to have the torch passed on to them (even with the return of them) and the ST150hp is a leader of that pack! Super high Torque, motor is powerful, yet you can stop it at the drop of dime, great sound, needles that come with are good, but I suggest Shure M44-7's or something to that nature. Slipmats/butter rugs are ok, so you'll need to go old school to add a lil extra on the bottom for your liking, because of the strong motor, it can really hinder your scratching, if you're a scratch DJ. Also these are BRICKS! Super heavy and I suggest you get cases for them over using a coffin if you're going to transport them to various locations for gigs. My 2 plus my mixer in my coffin is like 125lbs. Many features on this beauty and I'm happy I made the purchase!

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I have been a dj for 10 years now and swore by my Technics. They were a solid turntable, but they did have some flaws. The flimsy ground wire was one, as well as minor stability issues.
The Stanton on the other hand has noe of those issues. It has more torque than the 1200's, grounded wires that are removeable which allows for better sound quality with different cables. Its heavier than the 1200 which means grenades could go off by it and it won't budge. Overall I couldn't be happier with these tables.
 

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Tbh honest Greg the fact they are still holding the price after all these yrs says something !!!!! they are a solid unit and if looked after remain solid, the 1210mk2s I have which I brought off a scratch dj from notts are in fantastic nick, and prior to him owning them they where hire out units, so I dread to think how many hrs they have done over the yrs:confused::fekked::confused:
I do need to replace one decks RCA cables has it got caught in the hingde on my flight case ( I will get both replaced though) not something I fancy having a go at myself:S

My mate has 1200 techs and stantons and he says he always goes back to his techs, and he says his stantons have been back n forth to be fixed x amount of times...

My other mate puts on quite a few events and I asked him do any of the djs stipulate what turntable they want (tbh he laughed n said not many use um now) but he said when they do its always a techs...

I guess it boils down to what your budget is, I paid 500 for mine also got the flight cases, a rak amp, and two fek off speakers, which I cant use, has when on one bar is to loud for the house phones:phones:phones:

And one more thing and I will shut up, at least like all the other turntables out their they all have some way copy the technics design at least stanton came up with their own unique design and have their own unique powerful motor in their they get thumbs up from me for that.

They are not a technics and that's what a lot of people like about them they are unique they don't copy cat technics.

The reloops 7000 look like technic the nurmark ttx pro look like technics the plx 1000 look like technic the stantons don't.
 
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https://djworx.com/opinion-the-dumbing-down-of-dj-turntables-has-to-stop/

And here a review a opinion of one guy he does say the mrk 2 Stanton is not as good as the first genration look better but is not a better turntable . Then goes on to say that other turntables have just copy the technics as I said.
Their are 3 photos side by side and you can see how they have copy the technics.

That's the one thing I love about the stantons their not trying to be a technics.

Stanton STR8150 Review: Great Option For DJ's - TheBestTurntable

Another good review of the Stanton here as well.
 
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Tbh honest Greg the fact they are still holding the price after all these yrs says something !!!!! they are a solid unit and if looked after remain solid, the 1210mk2s I have which I brought off a scratch dj from notts are in fantastic nick, and prior to him owning them they where hire out units, so I dread to think how many hrs they have done over the yrs:confused::fekked::confused:
I do need to replace one decks RCA cables has it got caught in the hingde on my flight case ( I will get both replaced though) not something I fancy having a go at myself:S

My mate has 1200 techs and stantons and he says he always goes back to his techs, and he says his stantons have been back n forth to be fixed x amount of times...

My other mate puts on quite a few events and I asked him do any of the djs stipulate what turntable they want (tbh he laughed n said not many use um now) but he said when they do its always a techs...

I guess it boils down to what your budget is, I paid 500 for mine also got the flight cases, a rak amp, and two fek off speakers, which I cant use, has when on one bar is to loud for the house phones:phones:phones:


Turntable Lab will not carry the Stanton ST.150 | Serato.com

We don't need to have this argument it's already been done here in the link above, people who own technics and stantons go on and on at each other ,

It does not get reslove, I did not read all the way though the thread as it is to long. But people are always going to defend the turntable they have
Techs saying their turntables and stanton owners saying their turntables are better.

You need to read more through the thread but a long way through the thread people really start praising the stantons.
 

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Turntable Lab will not carry the Stanton ST.150 | Serato.com

We don't need to have this argument it's already been done here in the link above, people who own technics and stantons go on and on at each other ,

It does not get reslove, I did not read all the way though the thread as it is to long. But people are always going to defend the turntable they have
Techs saying their turntables and stanton owners saying their turntables are better.

You need to read more through the thread but a long way through the thread people really start praising the stantons.

Greg I wasnt trying to have a pop at you, I was just saying that they hold their price for a reason, and I was just pointing out what my mate said, and what his experience was with owning both.

Yeah those Dragons are nice, tape decks can be a mare for going wrong, obviously there are a lot of components
that can go wrong.....
There was quite of units that had auto reverse etc, infact some really bizzare ideas, even one with a tape Cassette loop :fekked:
 

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Greg I wasnt trying to have a pop at you, I was just saying that they hold their price for a reason, and I was just pointing out what my mate said, and what his experience was with owning both.

Yeah those Dragons are nice, tape decks can be a mare for going wrong, obviously there are a lot of components
that can go wrong.....
There was quite of units that had auto reverse etc, infact some really bizzare ideas, even one with a tape Cassette loop :fekked:


I have owned 2 sets of technic 1210's brand new out of the box. my last set I got rid of in 2001, so I have experience of both. But that was 18 years ago so my memory is a bit flaky around that. But I do remember recording my mixes onto tape and thinking that could me a bit better as the mixes were not always perfect.

But I did not know then if you touch the platter of twist the spindle that it will help the record mix perfectly. I do now.

I have this habit were I have to touch the platter to get the beats right and I done that back then, but that has nothing to do with synchronising the record. Its just a habit of mine. It just works for me.

2001 was round about the period I had my first computer and got obessed with them went to college to learn basic html so I could have a Web site instead of using a site builder and later on I learned some php so I could install a php web site, then later on went on a course to fix computers and worked in a computer shop and became mates with the guy who owned it. We use to go out together and that how I meet my mrs. Then I found this web site in 2015 and lost interest in it all apart from web sites still have love for them.

That is one mental tape player.
 
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Fight! Fight! Fight! :starwars::p;)

I have an old pioneer double-cassette deck and a single TEAC one, but sadly, neither of them work properly. Particularly miffed about the TEAC one, as it is part of a nice hi-fi set. I tried to take them to a repair shop about a decade ago, but they pretty much laughed and said it wasn't worth their time to even take the screws out of it, because they aren't worth fixing, parts are hard to find, the amount of time it would take to troubleshoot and dismantle the pretty chaotic mechanisms. I still have them though, as I couldn't bear to get shut.

I regards to the decks, everyone will tend to favour and defend the ones they use and like. In terms of specification, cold, hard, manufacturing spec, I am willing to believe that the new Technics are of a much more precise build than the old technics and that, personally, I would find it hard to believe that the Stantons are equal in build quality and specification. We already know the wow and flutter is a factor of 10 out of whack.

The new Stantons have a completely redesigned motor, which is now cordless and has some kind of tracking feature derived from Blueray technology. Machining, material engineering, composites, will have also greatly improved over the last 40 years since the originals were formulated and produced in the same way until they shut the factory down.

I would therefore say that the Technics development in these fields are the reason why Technics feel they can charge the ridiculous figures for their new decks, as the start-up and technology study needs to be paid for to recoup their investment in starting up to sell record players again.

Yet, with all that being said, does anybody really need blueray technology driven coreless motors and specialist new rubber materials that resist deformation or whatever? If another deck manages the same torque, the same start up time, the same weight and vibration damping, the same wow and flutter, to the exact same micron of measurement, then why buy the technics?

The PLX1000 or the Reloop could and would be just as good to mix on. The lack of more complex technology may mean there is less to go wrong. Yet the way the new technics are designed and manufactured, may mean they are still chugging away 40 years from now, whilst the PLX's, Stanton's and Reloops are in landfill.

But who knows - and should anybody over 40 really care all that much?! I am already in my 40's. I have no need for a turntable that will last till I'm 80 years old, childless and all alone in an old folks home being abused by my carers whilst I wait to die. Any offspring I may even gain will probably chuck all my collection away in a skip when they ship me off to pasture because I can't remember my own name, never mind spin some discs!

On that basis, I won't be buying the 1200G's or whatever worth about £1300 for ONE deck! The MK7's at £800 each are more than enough. So why not stick with a Reloop, PLX or Stanton, where the main difference is likely to be negligible and where the skill of the DJ to tinker with the mix ought to counter any flaws in the product - and besides, you can have the best decks on the planet but only be able to mix like an iguana on steroids, or have the musical inspiration of a whelk.
 

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I have said the same thing about mixers it not the mixer that makes a good DJ it's the person using it. I have a £72 mixer and it does a perfect job for me.

You do need a half decent set of turntables to mix and all the turntables we have talked about will do the job but if your a crap dj their not going to help.

But I guess that were cd decks come in and controllers come in as they will do the hard work for you but the downside is you can't use records anymore and that's not for me.
 

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Greg I wasnt trying to have a pop at you, I was just saying that they hold their price for a reason, and I was just pointing out what my mate said, and what his experience was with owning both.

I did not think you were having a pop and the reasoning for me answering you again is because I was in a record store yesterday and they had a Technic in their so you could listen to your records on them and it gave me some insight what the motor is like on them and how different the torque is on them compared to the Stanton and I can see now if someone had owned a Technic then how they might find it hard to get use to all that torque and would find it hard to get them to mix.

I have to say when I first got them, I found it very tricky to get use to all the torque in the motor and it took me about 2 months and a lot of frustration to learn how to get them to mix perfectly and like other I had learnt to mix on Technics. I did not want to give up on the as I had spent nearly £400 on mine and the reviews suggest that these are very good turntable.

am use to them now but the way you mix with these it totally different to the Technics because of all that torque on them.

You said you mate had some issue with his Stanton keep taken them back and getting them fixed.

My brother had a golf over 15 years ago and it was not that old at the time and he had on going issue with the starter motor but this does not make it a bad car but you do get the odd one that has not been manufactured properly.

By saying your mate had issue with his Stanton does make them a bad turntable and what I would not like to see you doing is putting people of buying the Stanton's when they are a perfectly good turntable.

I have a set of the first generations and they are in perfect working order.

But what I would say if you been use to the Technics you might find it a bit tricky to get use to because of all the toque on them and might think they are a rubbish turntable if you can't figure out how to juggle all that toque, because they are totally different to mix with than the Technics.
 
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Build quality is exactly the same as the s arm on the Technics to the straight arm on the Stanton. Both have 1/4 inch solid steel top and the rubber base is just like the 1200's the 1200 top is diecast aluminum

Here is a photo of the inside of the stanton 150 and you can see they are quite good quality

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/...y7L8NPG4nVqLb83PqQz4vzJluRU2cc1vw9kQRU x1__Q

and a close up of the Black & Manila optical brake sensor

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/...a6TXqG-oBsOVIBXRFPwdIeDsakIENiQBlFeE13Xnpz2Og


Here is how to fix the skipping issue as a Technics person will use this as a reason why you should buy the Stantons have had someone through this in my face whiles arguing about the Stantons. Mind have never skipped in the 4 months i have had them.
 
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Fight! Fight! Fight! :starwars::p;)

I have an old pioneer double-cassette deck and a single TEAC one, but sadly, neither of them work properly. Particularly miffed about the TEAC one, as it is part of a nice hi-fi set. I tried to take them to a repair shop about a decade ago, but they pretty much laughed and said it wasn't worth their time to even take the screws out of it, because they aren't worth fixing, parts are hard to find, the amount of time it would take to troubleshoot and dismantle the pretty chaotic mechanisms. I still have them though, as I couldn't bear to get shut.

I regards to the decks, everyone will tend to favour and defend the ones they use and like. In terms of specification, cold, hard, manufacturing spec, I am willing to believe that the new Technics are of a much more precise build than the old technics and that, personally, I would find it hard to believe that the Stantons are equal in build quality and specification. We already know the wow and flutter is a factor of 10 out of whack.

The new Stantons have a completely redesigned motor, which is now cordless and has some kind of tracking feature derived from Blueray technology. Machining, material engineering, composites, will have also greatly improved over the last 40 years since the originals were formulated and produced in the same way until they shut the factory down.

I would therefore say that the Technics development in these fields are the reason why Technics feel they can charge the ridiculous figures for their new decks, as the start-up and technology study needs to be paid for to recoup their investment in starting up to sell record players again.

Yet, with all that being said, does anybody really need blueray technology driven coreless motors and specialist new rubber materials that resist deformation or whatever? If another deck manages the same torque, the same start up time, the same weight and vibration damping, the same wow and flutter, to the exact same micron of measurement, then why buy the technics?

The PLX1000 or the Reloop could and would be just as good to mix on. The lack of more complex technology may mean there is less to go wrong. Yet the way the new technics are designed and manufactured, may mean they are still chugging away 40 years from now, whilst the PLX's, Stanton's and Reloops are in landfill.

But who knows - and should anybody over 40 really care all that much?! I am already in my 40's. I have no need for a turntable that will last till I'm 80 years old, childless and all alone in an old folks home being abused by my carers whilst I wait to die. Any offspring I may even gain will probably chuck all my collection away in a skip when they ship me off to pasture because I can't remember my own name, never mind spin some discs!

On that basis, I won't be buying the 1200G's or whatever worth about £1300 for ONE deck! The MK7's at £800 each are more than enough. So why not stick with a Reloop, PLX or Stanton, where the main difference is likely to be negligible and where the skill of the DJ to tinker with the mix ought to counter any flaws in the product - and besides, you can have the best decks on the planet but only be able to mix like an iguana on steroids, or have the musical inspiration of a whelk.

I think the flutter & wow exactly the same on the on new Technics as the old technics I think it's still 0.1 the stantons flutter and wow is not as good as the technics, but its because of All the torque on them they have 4.5kg of torque and the technics have only 2.5kg of torque you would able to get it down to the same amount at the technics because of all that torque.

I know from my own stantons some record will just hold the beat and you have to do nothing but on other records you have to tap the platter to keep them in.

The brand new denon turntable has a a rubber insulted platter the same as the new technics and it is the same build quality and it still cheaper than them over priced technics I noticed when I was on a dj forum people had the new denon in their set up. Them new denon turntables are really nice.

I have seen 2 reviews the new denon turntable, were the reviewer had stressed tested them and they came up trumps and one were he had not stressed tested them and he said they were a nice turntables. I personally don't know how you can say that unless you tried them out.
 
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In technical terms, I don't think wow and flutter has much to do with the torque. Torque, to me, is just an applied mass at a distance and thus how quickly the motor can propel that mass and hold that mass as the mass rotates around the centre of gravity.

Wow and flutter, however, to me, is the mechanical and electrical deviation due to poor tolerances, variations in power pulsation/supplies to the motor, or perhaps even the eccentricity/concentric variations of the platter and the rest of the turntable. Like on an old cassette player, wow and flutter can cause variations in the speed and, exaggerated, give off a kind of ambulance-sounding weave on a string-section of music.

I am sure we've all had a pressing of vinyl where the centre hole is out of centre position (or has warped) and the arm/needle weaves side to side, emitting a horrible distortion to the sound. This is because the groove is moving closer and then further away from the spindle as it rotates, which means the speed of the record is changing slightly over a revolution of a groove.

This is why tend to attribute wow and flutter being the reason I could never hold long mixes in progressive house on my Stanton decks. There's a lot at play, the arm build, the platter casting quality, the exact position and axis of the spindle, how good the vinyl pressing are, which when combined to my not always brilliant DJ'ing, just tended to throw it off over a duration of time.

I can't say I have ever had a problem with any direct drive turntable torque, certainly not my Stantons, but when the wow and flutter is 0.1 and technics 0.01 - I just tend to think if you're pretty anal about perfect progressive house beat-matching on vinyl like I used to be, you may need all the help you can get! lol. It's nothing a rub of the finger on the spindle won't fix, it will be fractional - but fractional over a 3 or 4 minute mix may be enough to have to keep fannying about with it to stay in.

However, I'm not an expert on mixing. Despite my suspicions about the manufacturing build and the wow and flutter effects making the speed inconsistent, I am sure it is more my lack of ability and my cloth-ears that are more at fault.
 

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I've had a pair for a few years and I love them. I used Technics 1200 MK2s on and off for about 10 years. When Vestax released the PDX-2000s I decided to buy a pair as I wanted something with more torque and a higher pitch range. They were good decks, but I took them to gigs and other people's houses and they got beat up over time, so I decided to sell them while they were still worth something and get some STR8-150s. I think they're a superior turntable to a Technics 1200 in almost all ways. The build quality, while great, is not up to the level of a 1200 and if you ever need to get them serviced or you need to buy spares, I don't know how easy that would be compared to a 1200, but those are the only advantages I would give to the Technics decks. Oh yeah, they're heavy too! About 50 lbs each, because the top of the deck is a thick sheet of solid steel.

The STR8-150s are really what the MK5G should have been in terms of design. The Technics 1200 was a home Hi-Fi deck that DJs started using - it was never designed for DJs - and some of that comes across in the design differences between 1200s and the 150s. For instance, the 150s have no ground lead and the phono leads just unplug at the rear of the deck if you ever need to change them. The target light just pops off, so you don't have to undo about a million screws if you need to change the bulb. There are 2 start/stop buttons so whichever way round you have your decks, they're conveniently placed. The pitch slider has no centre click and there's a separate quartz lock button (which I know the MK5G has too).

The pitch range is switchable up to +/-50, which is useful for sampling and scratching if use battle records that have scratch sentences deliberately pitched up to +50. There's adjustable start/stop. 33/45/78. The output is switchable between phono and line and when you use line, the deck has built-in digital key lock that works with vinyl, although it doesn't work very well and that's certainly not a reason to buy them - it's acceptable when you use acapellas, but it does sound quite "digital" (i.e. rubbish, lol) with full tracks.

The motor is great. Once you get the pitch of 2 tracks locked you can play them all the way through with no drifting, so it's perfect for mixing. The torque is massive, which I personally prefer as the pitch slider reacts more quickly to changes and I prefer it for scratching too. The tonearm is solid and with good carts, the needle holds the groove as well as any turntable on the market.
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I found this review on the Stantons SRT 150's the only reason I posted this is because I have been having issue getting mine holding the beat accurately all the time without drifting and I have had to keep tapping the platter and after reading this I quickly switched on my turntable I already had two records on and guess what they "held without drifting", so no problem with the wow of flutter on them because if their was I would not be able to get them to do that.

So I need to be a bit more patience while am getting the beat right am just trying to figure out if mine need a service, but am sure its me and not the turntables and this kind of concluded it .

I did read a amazon review were a guy had said he had gone to the toilet and when he came back they were still in beat.

I did fine a manual and the Stantons 150's and the wow & flutter exactly the same as the Technics 1210 Less than 0.1% WRMS
 
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Tbh honest Greg the fact they are still holding the price after all these yrs says something !!!!! they are a solid unit and if looked after remain solid, the 1210mk2s I have which I brought off a scratch dj from notts are in fantastic nick, and prior to him owning them they where hire out units, so I dread to think how many hrs they have done over the yrs:confused::fekked::confused:
I do need to replace one decks RCA cables has it got caught in the hingde on my flight case ( I will get both replaced though) not something I fancy having a go at myself:S

My mate has 1200 techs and stantons and he says he always goes back to his techs, and he says his stantons have been back n forth to be fixed x amount of times...

My other mate puts on quite a few events and I asked him do any of the djs stipulate what turntable they want (tbh he laughed n said not many use um now) but he said when they do its always a techs...

I guess it boils down to what your budget is, I paid 500 for mine also got the flight cases, a rak amp, and two fek off speakers, which I cant use, has when on one bar is to loud for the house phones:phones:phones:

I have a a little tinker with mine this afternoon this mix I do here is garage as you can hear their is no issue with the flutter on these, I have not had to adjust the turntable I just let them run and as you can hear perfect.

You do read in places people saying the Stanton are better and more precise then the Technics.

I think the issues I have been having are of my own making and not the turntable and the proof is in this mix they do hold.

I think its true what you say the Stantons do have issue were they break down but I do think its the blues one that have a lot of the technical issue mine are 2005 ones and still going strong. :roll:

https://mega.nz/#!hsEyiAqB!jtTZt0uHW5rYEQ_0wuGnu_EZREuLfkTgjmTUOQEfAKQ

Some people kick the arse out of their turntables and treat them like shit, mine are in in good condition do have few marks on them but are still looking good after all these years.

And it's a relief to know they don't need a service or I need to upgrade to technics actually, I need to be a little bit more precise.

Because if you read around the internet a lot of people really rate these turntables that's why I bought them and i read some forums today people really like these turntables and a few people favour them over the technics.

I think the technics will out last the stantons but not out perform them, not what I have read round the internet.
 
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