Did anyone watch the Beebs series on "the album"? Whatchu think? I watched pretty much all that my guts could handle, I thought it was a brilliant idea ...but handed over to a bunch of cnuts, fkn Danny Baker ...The Monk...trying to relive the buzz of youth and who the fk were the guests? Clarkson...just a twat..great show Top Gear but muizzo? no way...just there cos he could afford to have Nick mason etc on his prog, beetches and winkers prob best sums all the rest up...even that bloke from Elbow makes me want to die...damm poor show from the most potential yieding program that never was...toss...The album dynamics were what hooked me right into music when I was young lad, the trip, the fact it takes play after play to even start appreciating the production and how some tracks creep up from zero to hero...these points may have been raised by Baldachi Monkoff but why were there no real indepth band interviews, you would have to go a long way to beat the "Rock Family Trees" series...I wonder if we are going to get a chance to air our genre and generations music before we are all too old to be bothered or just dribbling e casualties...
The Album Thread...
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yeah it caught my interest too when i saw it ont tv schedules, but in the end i only managed about 5 minutes, stomach churning stuff. didn't know any of em apart from baker and clarkson, how anyone could consider that group of ppl to be experts on what makes a good album is beyond me. i actually quite like clarkson and his sense of humour, but his lack of taste in music is legendary, maybe they just picked him in the hope that he would drop a couple of nob gags along the way to make things a bit more entertaining 
tbh u could put any group of ppl in a room and they would probs say sommat different, music is a personal and subjective thing so it would never be possible to come up with a definitive list, tho it might make decent conversation in the pub after a few ales lol
my problem with albums, and also partly the reason why i prefer 12" singles, is that u buy them cos u like 1 or 2 tunes, then u get home to find that the rest of it is turd. always looked for ones that have several tunes that were worth listening to rather than just the ones that radio 1 had battered to death and u were already bored of, like these:
Moby - Play (1999) [Full Album] - YouTube
http://www.discogs.com/Who-Quadrophenia/release/1065082
nice thread tho dave, would be nice to hear about other members fave albums and their reasons for liking them 
tbh u could put any group of ppl in a room and they would probs say sommat different, music is a personal and subjective thing so it would never be possible to come up with a definitive list, tho it might make decent conversation in the pub after a few ales lol
my problem with albums, and also partly the reason why i prefer 12" singles, is that u buy them cos u like 1 or 2 tunes, then u get home to find that the rest of it is turd. always looked for ones that have several tunes that were worth listening to rather than just the ones that radio 1 had battered to death and u were already bored of, like these:
Moby - Play (1999) [Full Album] - YouTube
http://www.discogs.com/Who-Quadrophenia/release/1065082
nice thread tho dave, would be nice to hear about other members fave albums and their reasons for liking them
I never watched the prog you mention, but can imagine the format. It's similar when any prog is made about for eg. 'the club scene' or 'the history of house' etc etc... never really put together with much style, missing important sections and usually wide of the mark anyway... oh and presented by ginals.
I fookin luv my albums, and keep them downstairs under my single deck. Being able to stick on a long player and sit back to enjoy it is ace and different to standing up mixing 12"'s which takes effort.
Ones that stand out are:
Massive attack - Blue Lines
Happy Mondays - Pills n Thrills and Bellaches
Paul Simon - Graceland
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Doors - LA Woman
The Cure - Boys Dont Cry
Nirvana - Nevermind
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
For me.... no turds on any of these
I fookin luv my albums, and keep them downstairs under my single deck. Being able to stick on a long player and sit back to enjoy it is ace and different to standing up mixing 12"'s which takes effort.
Ones that stand out are:
Massive attack - Blue Lines
Happy Mondays - Pills n Thrills and Bellaches
Paul Simon - Graceland
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Doors - LA Woman
The Cure - Boys Dont Cry
Nirvana - Nevermind
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
For me.... no turds on any of these
thought i was the only one haha
I got few albums from wich not single track is bad so just for the record that it IS possible lol Actually when i think about them, it's quite big amount. Many genres, many styles so ill go more into electronic/dance type.
One of more important albums would be this one: http://www.discogs.com/Cinematic-Orchestra-Motion/master/17641
Nu jazz record wich basicly means oldskool type beats and samples looped with jazz quality solos (occasionally some vocals). As with most of people i bet, it is mainly due to significant impact the record made on my childhood, i think of it as my all time favourite. This is type of album that never gets old and got this freshness always, no matter how many times you get back to it.
Generally i'm trying not to give up on listening to whole albums but i gotta say, nowdays it's getting almost impossible to find an album without single track i wouldn't like.
I only caught bits of the Clarkson episode as I was doing other stuff, but I watched the R&B (old school soul) episode with Micah Paris, Trevor Nelson and an actor out of Love Actually (who was a mod) all the way through and found most of it interesting, but still lacking in the kind of soul funk that really interests me, but my loss is another's gain. A strange mix having 2 guests too who should probably be there and one who probably shouldn't though. I'd have had Craig Charles in there to mix it up and make it more involving.
A bit too much back slapping too and i'd rather everybody threw more of their personal tastes into the pot than just being in agreement with everything each other said, but maybe that's just me
Danny Baker should know his stuff anyway as he did work in one of London's top record shops (I once heard).
A bit too much back slapping too and i'd rather everybody threw more of their personal tastes into the pot than just being in agreement with everything each other said, but maybe that's just me
Danny Baker should know his stuff anyway as he did work in one of London's top record shops (I once heard).
Yeah man...I gotta have the album and the 12 nowadays...if I like it, it's like an addiction that has gone up a level, and maybe scince the 12" has superceeded the 7" for the single format, and has given rise to the "remix" the possibilities for our audible pleasure are endless...thankfully it's only vinyl for me really, I'm not a format snob but have little interest in collecting CD's even though they too offer up different mixes in their own right.
I have nearly all of your list on my regular rotation as well Sam...also Mezzanine features quite a lot on my playlist and Live And Dangerous by Thin Lizzy...a studio album made up of live recordings and mixed down so as to give the impression of being a tour LP.
The trip an album can take you on is almost in the same ball park as a symphonic masterpiece in the skill involved laying it all out and the creation of the tracks/edits...it tells a story and maps out a musical journey that's open for the listener to interpret however they want, it sets you free from the obvious impact of the hit parade and allows you to experience the whole deal , without the constraints of any scene or style...man...I'm sure that buzz is what hooked me into mixing, I have always played music, listened to music and made music... when you think how much we have stepped it up, created a scene that actually has the music written FOR the dj to play, carved it all out for ourselves by being originators in our own right...mixing the fk out of the 20th century to get a new scene going...I think we deserved an episode on it's own to recognize how much the turntablist contributed to the history of vinyl...we have certainly kept it going for the last 20 years.
I have nearly all of your list on my regular rotation as well Sam...also Mezzanine features quite a lot on my playlist and Live And Dangerous by Thin Lizzy...a studio album made up of live recordings and mixed down so as to give the impression of being a tour LP.
The trip an album can take you on is almost in the same ball park as a symphonic masterpiece in the skill involved laying it all out and the creation of the tracks/edits...it tells a story and maps out a musical journey that's open for the listener to interpret however they want, it sets you free from the obvious impact of the hit parade and allows you to experience the whole deal , without the constraints of any scene or style...man...I'm sure that buzz is what hooked me into mixing, I have always played music, listened to music and made music... when you think how much we have stepped it up, created a scene that actually has the music written FOR the dj to play, carved it all out for ourselves by being originators in our own right...mixing the fk out of the 20th century to get a new scene going...I think we deserved an episode on it's own to recognize how much the turntablist contributed to the history of vinyl...we have certainly kept it going for the last 20 years.
I thought the programme was ok as far as it went and I did enjoy it generally speaking. But no way was this the last word 
The problem was that it was far too limited in scope and ended with a sort of bang when punk came along, like 'and then it all ended for the album'. Erm......well......actually, no, they kept going for a fair bit longer doncha know.
By petering out when it did the programme missed out the whole indie scene of the 80s / 90s. That's 20+ years of vinyl, in a scene where vinyl was the preferred format for most of that period. So none of what you could justifyable claim to be serious labels got a look in - Factory, Creation, 4AD to name just three indiginous greats. Indie as a vehicle for album production was pretty much ignored. And where was any spokesman for that era - Noel Gallagher hardly counts, it was his lot who loaded everything decent into the coffin and started banging the lid down.
So it wasn't really the history of the LP at all, it was a partial potted history with the emphasis on the major labels. I.e the music industry endorsed version - what a refreshing change
For me dance music has never fitted comfortable into the album format. Thinking of a few artists who have released material on LP such as Way Out West, Chicane (not saying I love these BTW!) it gets a bit samey samey track after track for me. You don't really get taken on the journey that you do with guitar based music or ambient techno, it doesn't build. Dance music is better suited to the 12" format IMO where a DJ mixes it up and the journey is created by the swapping and changing between artists track after track. The DJ makes the whole out of disparate parts.
Favourite albums for me would be difficult to define precisely. I've got a hell of a lot of stuff - probably like most others on here - and I tend to chop and change over time as to what I'm into. What I can't get off the turntable one month can then be shelved for years sometimes before I revisit it. But a few perennial faves would be-
The Smiths - Strangeways Here We Come
Ministry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste
Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
Happy Mondays - Pills n Thrills and Bellyaches
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
Leatherface - Mush
Lush - Spooky
Autechre - Incunabula
LFO - Frequencies
And as soon as I post this I'll regret leaving something off that wholly inadequate list.....phones:
I suppose theoretically I should include Crass - Christ, The Album. That was a hugely influential album for me and the lyrics are still as powerful today as they ever were but I think it's fair to say that musically it's shite.
The problem was that it was far too limited in scope and ended with a sort of bang when punk came along, like 'and then it all ended for the album'. Erm......well......actually, no, they kept going for a fair bit longer doncha know.By petering out when it did the programme missed out the whole indie scene of the 80s / 90s. That's 20+ years of vinyl, in a scene where vinyl was the preferred format for most of that period. So none of what you could justifyable claim to be serious labels got a look in - Factory, Creation, 4AD to name just three indiginous greats. Indie as a vehicle for album production was pretty much ignored. And where was any spokesman for that era - Noel Gallagher hardly counts, it was his lot who loaded everything decent into the coffin and started banging the lid down
.So it wasn't really the history of the LP at all, it was a partial potted history with the emphasis on the major labels. I.e the music industry endorsed version - what a refreshing change
For me dance music has never fitted comfortable into the album format. Thinking of a few artists who have released material on LP such as Way Out West, Chicane (not saying I love these BTW!) it gets a bit samey samey track after track for me. You don't really get taken on the journey that you do with guitar based music or ambient techno, it doesn't build. Dance music is better suited to the 12" format IMO where a DJ mixes it up and the journey is created by the swapping and changing between artists track after track. The DJ makes the whole out of disparate parts.
Favourite albums for me would be difficult to define precisely. I've got a hell of a lot of stuff - probably like most others on here - and I tend to chop and change over time as to what I'm into. What I can't get off the turntable one month can then be shelved for years sometimes before I revisit it. But a few perennial faves would be-
The Smiths - Strangeways Here We Come
Ministry - The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste
Nine Inch Nails - With Teeth
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
Happy Mondays - Pills n Thrills and Bellyaches
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
Leatherface - Mush
Lush - Spooky
Autechre - Incunabula
LFO - Frequencies
And as soon as I post this I'll regret leaving something off that wholly inadequate list.....phones:
I suppose theoretically I should include Crass - Christ, The Album. That was a hugely influential album for me and the lyrics are still as powerful today as they ever were but I think it's fair to say that musically it's shite.
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the programmes were successful in one respect. they got the viewers debating the subject. i mean, look at this thread for a start.
i watched the "clarkson" episode and for once he didn't piss me off too much. the soul programme wan't bad either. trevor nelson could have had (and should have had) the whole programme to himself. he argued about what is and isn't r'n'b. when he's playing out he gets requests for r'n'b and plays some. when the requester complains that it wasn't rihanna or neyo it totally fucks him off..."that ain't r'n'b, it's pop music!"
i watched the "clarkson" episode and for once he didn't piss me off too much. the soul programme wan't bad either. trevor nelson could have had (and should have had) the whole programme to himself. he argued about what is and isn't r'n'b. when he's playing out he gets requests for r'n'b and plays some. when the requester complains that it wasn't rihanna or neyo it totally fucks him off..."that ain't r'n'b, it's pop music!"
Agreed...The prog really did skip over an era that then defined another one, the indie scene 100% fuelled the early rave scene as well as influences from overseas...The run of programs should have been hosted by an different enthusiast for each episode, someone who could really do their scene justice...you just know that DB was way out of his depth even looking at Trevor Nelson...you could see his eyes starting to glass over, I bet he was just aching to slaughter dance music in all it's multitude of shapes and sizes...electronica was completely ignored, Stanton mate...you are really good at putting together threads, there is a severe lack of quality posts on here at the mo mate...we need guys like you to give us some quality threadage and get the synapses firing a bit more...I try but my skill levels with a pen run out at the postcard stage...you may also enjoy DJhistory.com | Handpicked downloads and if you haven't visited Fantazia Shelleys Laserdome - Martin Red's Story - Rave Club best have a butchers there as well mate.
