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<blockquote data-quote="U31" data-source="post: 829981" data-attributes="member: 8996"><p>I get this same lame assed argument in mountain biking, </p><p>folk get an Apollo FS26 from Hellfrauds for Christmas, birthday, present to self, because they seem affordable.</p><p>They aint. </p><p>Not when they break after a season of doing what i do, and my Orange is well in to its Fifth season, my On One did two years under me and a good year with Pepe, including the Alps and is still going strong with only a change of brake pads and forks</p><p></p><p>But</p><p>Where the fuck are people supposed to get the groundwork of skills once they progress from bridalways and canal paths, and on to Gnarry black runs?</p><p>How do they know they <u>want</u> to progress UNLESS they buy the cheap shit that gets them hooked, lets them understand why their bike cost £130 and mine cost 3 Grand new.</p><p></p><p>And now the next and very salient to DJ'ing point.</p><p>I have had people on Halfords specials keep up with me down black runs. </p><p>People with a natural flair, who have the skill to ride round their bikes deficiencies and wring the fucking things neck to get every ounce of performance out of it.</p><p>I got back to the top and let them have a go on mine to see what they can really do, and 8 times out of 10 they really fly.</p><p>And vice versa. </p><p>I was Dh'ing with a group of very skilled guys this year on our localish centre, one of our group who is good at getting big air and drop offs was giving us tips, and the favour returned in bits that we are good at. </p><p>kids riding past saw what we were up to, and we let them join us, swapped bikes, gave advice... If they asked they left that day with a better understanding of some particular skill set or other.</p><p></p><p>A group of Japanese tourists rocked up dressed like stormtroopers on Specialized Demo 8's. The team bike of Sam Hill for those who dont know, and these fuckers make my bike seem like a toy.</p><p>A very very sophisticated bit of kit. </p><p>We let on, in awe really, expecting to get our arses kicked. We were ignored and this group carried on on their own way. Fair do's, riding gods among mere mortals an all...</p><p></p><p>Not one of this group got above an estimated 10 mph (i'm at FULL chat doing 25 to 30 down there) and not once did i see a wheel leave the ground. Rock gardens where walked down, drop off's were pushed over.</p><p>They were shit. All the gear and no idea.</p><p>Maybe it was their first outing, loaded with cash, they told some bike dealer their dreams and not the reality and the shop saw pound notes. </p><p>This is what you need boys, sign here and here, you'll be the next Steve Peat.</p><p>I sincerely hope those boys went on from that day and sought professional tuition on how to ride them bikes without hurting themself or others, and looking like a tit in process, something they could have had for free that day if they only asked or joined in. </p><p>Maybe watching us and a group of 12 year old kids on shitters flying over jumps and rocks gave them the push to become better. Maybe one of 'em will be the next Peaty, or Hill.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, i cut my teeth on a Halfords type bike.</p><p>Yeah many people cut their DJ teeth on these £300 Numark or KAM type all in one turntable or CDj and mixer packages.</p><p>Some learn, get to understand the process. </p><p>Some dont.</p><p></p><p>Some go out and buy the top bollocks Pioneer CDJ 2000's and an 800 mixer.</p><p>Some might learn and get to understand the process, some wont.</p><p>Its horses for courses. So why belittle them? </p><p>It dont harm you in any way shape or form what so ever, unless your ego really is that fragile?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="U31, post: 829981, member: 8996"] I get this same lame assed argument in mountain biking, folk get an Apollo FS26 from Hellfrauds for Christmas, birthday, present to self, because they seem affordable. They aint. Not when they break after a season of doing what i do, and my Orange is well in to its Fifth season, my On One did two years under me and a good year with Pepe, including the Alps and is still going strong with only a change of brake pads and forks But Where the fuck are people supposed to get the groundwork of skills once they progress from bridalways and canal paths, and on to Gnarry black runs? How do they know they [U]want[/U] to progress UNLESS they buy the cheap shit that gets them hooked, lets them understand why their bike cost £130 and mine cost 3 Grand new. And now the next and very salient to DJ'ing point. I have had people on Halfords specials keep up with me down black runs. People with a natural flair, who have the skill to ride round their bikes deficiencies and wring the fucking things neck to get every ounce of performance out of it. I got back to the top and let them have a go on mine to see what they can really do, and 8 times out of 10 they really fly. And vice versa. I was Dh'ing with a group of very skilled guys this year on our localish centre, one of our group who is good at getting big air and drop offs was giving us tips, and the favour returned in bits that we are good at. kids riding past saw what we were up to, and we let them join us, swapped bikes, gave advice... If they asked they left that day with a better understanding of some particular skill set or other. A group of Japanese tourists rocked up dressed like stormtroopers on Specialized Demo 8's. The team bike of Sam Hill for those who dont know, and these fuckers make my bike seem like a toy. A very very sophisticated bit of kit. We let on, in awe really, expecting to get our arses kicked. We were ignored and this group carried on on their own way. Fair do's, riding gods among mere mortals an all... Not one of this group got above an estimated 10 mph (i'm at FULL chat doing 25 to 30 down there) and not once did i see a wheel leave the ground. Rock gardens where walked down, drop off's were pushed over. They were shit. All the gear and no idea. Maybe it was their first outing, loaded with cash, they told some bike dealer their dreams and not the reality and the shop saw pound notes. This is what you need boys, sign here and here, you'll be the next Steve Peat. I sincerely hope those boys went on from that day and sought professional tuition on how to ride them bikes without hurting themself or others, and looking like a tit in process, something they could have had for free that day if they only asked or joined in. Maybe watching us and a group of 12 year old kids on shitters flying over jumps and rocks gave them the push to become better. Maybe one of 'em will be the next Peaty, or Hill. Yeah, i cut my teeth on a Halfords type bike. Yeah many people cut their DJ teeth on these £300 Numark or KAM type all in one turntable or CDj and mixer packages. Some learn, get to understand the process. Some dont. Some go out and buy the top bollocks Pioneer CDJ 2000's and an 800 mixer. Some might learn and get to understand the process, some wont. Its horses for courses. So why belittle them? It dont harm you in any way shape or form what so ever, unless your ego really is that fragile? [/QUOTE]
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