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<blockquote data-quote="Jonno" data-source="post: 727883" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>Are you saying that the top teams should always be the top teams and that's just how it should be? I'm sorry but what a load of pish. The current pecking order in football is by no means the history of the game. What about Notts Forest, or Derby or Leeds or to go back further Wolves or Shef Wednesday or even Burnley? These were major teams in their day but have fallen by the wayside. Football changes all the time. The big 4's dominance won't last forever, some will fall from that pedestal and others will take their place. That's always been the case. </p><p></p><p>Over and above that, what about the supporters of Everton or Villa or even Hull or Stoke or Sunderland - should their fans never hope that their team could be the best in England, ever? Should their hope be for a good cup run or just to stay in the Premier League every single season year on year? Should they just know their place because there is a "pecking order in football" and it's "the history of the game"? Of course they shouldn't. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The only way any team is going to break into the top 4 these days is with money unfortunately. Man City certainly didn't create that situation but that is definitely the way it is these days. The days of an English club like Notts Forest or Villa holding up the European Cup (or even EPL) without serious investment has long long gone. I hope it changes, but I'm not gonna begrudge any team that gets the investment to challenge the top 4 (except maybe West Ham).</p><p></p><p>Does it say more than a picture of a Russian holding up a Chelsea shirt, or a Yank holding up a Liverpool or United or Villa shirt? If it does - why?</p><p></p><p>I'm personally chuffed for Man City and I'm chuffed that it looks like someone else is finally gonna break into the top 4 hierachy. The money situation has been around for a long time already and most fans I know from other teams have got used to it - they might not agree with it, mind, but they've got used to it. The one's that seem to be complaining the most are those whose teams might be knocked off their top 4 pedestal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jonno, post: 727883, member: 5"] Are you saying that the top teams should always be the top teams and that's just how it should be? I'm sorry but what a load of pish. The current pecking order in football is by no means the history of the game. What about Notts Forest, or Derby or Leeds or to go back further Wolves or Shef Wednesday or even Burnley? These were major teams in their day but have fallen by the wayside. Football changes all the time. The big 4's dominance won't last forever, some will fall from that pedestal and others will take their place. That's always been the case. Over and above that, what about the supporters of Everton or Villa or even Hull or Stoke or Sunderland - should their fans never hope that their team could be the best in England, ever? Should their hope be for a good cup run or just to stay in the Premier League every single season year on year? Should they just know their place because there is a "pecking order in football" and it's "the history of the game"? Of course they shouldn't. The only way any team is going to break into the top 4 these days is with money unfortunately. Man City certainly didn't create that situation but that is definitely the way it is these days. The days of an English club like Notts Forest or Villa holding up the European Cup (or even EPL) without serious investment has long long gone. I hope it changes, but I'm not gonna begrudge any team that gets the investment to challenge the top 4 (except maybe West Ham). Does it say more than a picture of a Russian holding up a Chelsea shirt, or a Yank holding up a Liverpool or United or Villa shirt? If it does - why? I'm personally chuffed for Man City and I'm chuffed that it looks like someone else is finally gonna break into the top 4 hierachy. The money situation has been around for a long time already and most fans I know from other teams have got used to it - they might not agree with it, mind, but they've got used to it. The one's that seem to be complaining the most are those whose teams might be knocked off their top 4 pedestal. [/QUOTE]
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