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<blockquote data-quote="Jonno" data-source="post: 727891" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>No disagreeing that your glory years were because you were great - same as any other team pre Premiership team though. My point is you are only able to compete <em>now</em> because of money. The same goes for any other team who want to compete for titles - Man City included. And as such I'm not gonna begrudge them doing so as that's now the nature of top flight football in this country.</p><p></p><p>That's true, Everton were the blip on that particular point. Could they sustain it though? Could they fuck. Next year business as usual with the top 4. Why? Because they didn't get the money needed to challenge the top 4 <em>consistently</em>. Plus should 4th place become the league title for non top 4 clubs? Of course it shouldn't.</p><p></p><p>My point is this; top flight football now is different than it was even 20 years ago. You need money to seriously challenge for titles now. No club "deserves" to have money any more than any other club - do Notts Forest deserve new money because their club grafted in the past? Of course not. Until something changes, the nature of football today seems to be who has the most money. I'd much prefer it if wasn't the case but unfortunately it is and I have to live with that or not watch football. As a neutral though in the current footballing climate, I'd prefer to see the top 4 hierachy change so that it isn't the same teams winning every season.</p><p></p><p>Of course I personally think the bubble is gonna burst sooner or later somehow, look at West Ham - even with a sizeable fan base their books aren't balancing and they had to sell players they didn't want to. Sunderland are spending too much IMO, Fulham and Stoke too. Man City were in serious trouble before the Arabs came in. It's not just fees, it's wages as well. For the smaller clubs wages takes up the biggest chunk of turnover - 70-80%. With football being businesses these days, unless they are a billionaire's plaything, they have to balance the books. Didn't Wenger say recently that he had to make profits on players to meet the interest payments on the Emirates? That can't be a good business situation to be in, in fact it seems like madness to me - normal big businesses wouldn't work in that way. It seems to me that many are on financial shaky ground and something will have to give. I suspect we'll see a few Leeds type scenarios in the years to come - who knows maybe with one of the bigger clubs as well.</p><p></p><p>As it stands though, fans of the lower clubs just have to hope theirs is the next club to get rich!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jonno, post: 727891, member: 5"] No disagreeing that your glory years were because you were great - same as any other team pre Premiership team though. My point is you are only able to compete [I]now[/I] because of money. The same goes for any other team who want to compete for titles - Man City included. And as such I'm not gonna begrudge them doing so as that's now the nature of top flight football in this country. That's true, Everton were the blip on that particular point. Could they sustain it though? Could they fuck. Next year business as usual with the top 4. Why? Because they didn't get the money needed to challenge the top 4 [I]consistently[/I]. Plus should 4th place become the league title for non top 4 clubs? Of course it shouldn't. My point is this; top flight football now is different than it was even 20 years ago. You need money to seriously challenge for titles now. No club "deserves" to have money any more than any other club - do Notts Forest deserve new money because their club grafted in the past? Of course not. Until something changes, the nature of football today seems to be who has the most money. I'd much prefer it if wasn't the case but unfortunately it is and I have to live with that or not watch football. As a neutral though in the current footballing climate, I'd prefer to see the top 4 hierachy change so that it isn't the same teams winning every season. Of course I personally think the bubble is gonna burst sooner or later somehow, look at West Ham - even with a sizeable fan base their books aren't balancing and they had to sell players they didn't want to. Sunderland are spending too much IMO, Fulham and Stoke too. Man City were in serious trouble before the Arabs came in. It's not just fees, it's wages as well. For the smaller clubs wages takes up the biggest chunk of turnover - 70-80%. With football being businesses these days, unless they are a billionaire's plaything, they have to balance the books. Didn't Wenger say recently that he had to make profits on players to meet the interest payments on the Emirates? That can't be a good business situation to be in, in fact it seems like madness to me - normal big businesses wouldn't work in that way. It seems to me that many are on financial shaky ground and something will have to give. I suspect we'll see a few Leeds type scenarios in the years to come - who knows maybe with one of the bigger clubs as well. As it stands though, fans of the lower clubs just have to hope theirs is the next club to get rich! [/QUOTE]
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