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It's a shame and a shock that he's gone - RIP and all that.

The bloke was an absolute and undoubted musical genius - love his earlier work more than his later stuff but that's probably true with all artists (they all seem to seriously tail off as they get older). Thriller is still the best selling album ever as well in the entire world - that obviously takes some doing.

But crikey, what a troubled individual; the fairground, the chimp, the oxygen tent, the allegations (whatever you think about his guilt, a grown man should surely not be sharing his bed with an unrelated 12 year old boy, especially if he's already been in court on paedo charges), the hanging his kid out of the window, naming his kid blanket, the numerous addictions to prescribed stuff, changing colour, the crazy plastic face. This clearly wasn't someone at ease.

Shame eh.
 

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I don't think it's fair to put Michael Jackson in the same catergory as Gary Glitter. At the end of the day if there was enough evidence to Jail him, as there was in the Glitter case, then no amount of money would keep him out of prison. I would agree that by paying someone off, it arouses suspicion, but then that's his choice to put it behind him and move on. However on the other hand by taking a payoff as a child's parent rather than pushing for justice doesn't really convince me that the allegations are true. The police make their investigations and obviously decided there was insufficient evidence.

This was exactly what I said fair enough he payed them off but being the way he was I think this was easier for him rather than to have to go through the courst thing I actually think he was A Sexual which means non neither straight, gay or perv he was like a child. If someone had my abused one of my kids I would definatly not take a pay off for any amount of money I would want them through court and behind bars end of!!! Point made!!! :mad:
 

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Ahhhhhhh god damn it!!! >< I had some well good jokes lined up 4 2night 2, but you lot is all "oh he waz so great" ><

ugh! never could stand the bloke myself, never liked his music and imo 'Guilty' and as i believe that i have no time for him.

Its a shame when anyone dies, thats 4 sure and ppl do like him, that part is sad, but each to there own i guess?

I feel sorry for his family and ppl that did like him and his music, other than that.... meh...
 

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Ahhhhhhh god damn it!!! >< I had some well good jokes lined up 4 2night 2, but you lot is all "oh he waz so great" ><

ugh! never could stand the bloke myself, never liked his music and imo 'Guilty' and as i believe that i have no time for him.

Its a shame when anyone dies, thats 4 sure and ppl do like him, that part is sad, but each to there own i guess?

I feel sorry for his family and ppl that did like him and his music, other than that.... meh...

At least you are true to form Steve!;)
 

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I don't think it's fair to put Michael Jackson in the same catergory as Gary Glitter. At the end of the day if there was enough evidence to Jail him, as there was in the Glitter case, then no amount of money would keep him out of prison. I would agree that by paying someone off, it arouses suspicion, but then that's his choice to put it behind him and move on. However on the other hand by taking a payoff as a child's parent rather than pushing for justice doesn't really convince me that the allegations are true. The police make their investigations and obviously decided there was insufficient evidence.

nice one ed, totally agree :thumbsup:

i was a fan of MJ - RIP Michael Jackson
 

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Ahhhhhhh god damn it!!! >< I had some well good jokes lined up 4 2night 2, but you lot is all "oh he waz so great" ><

ugh! never could stand the bloke myself, never liked his music and imo 'Guilty' and as i believe that i have no time for him.

Its a shame when anyone dies, thats 4 sure and ppl do like him, that part is sad, but each to there own i guess?

I feel sorry for his family and ppl that did like him and his music, other than that.... meh...

i share this view :)
 

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i share this view :)

Is there not one MJ record you like on the sly??

I mean he has done some right old tosh, but when it was good.. . .Well. .


As a footnote I would like to add that one can not under-estimate the role of Quincy Jones. Jackson was brilliant, but it was Jones that made him a genius in my opinion.

A brilliant combination.
 
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Is there not one MJ record you like on the sly??

I mean he has done some right old tosh, but when it was good.. . .Well. .


As a footnote I would like to add that one can not under-estimate the role of Quincy Jones. Jackson was a brilliant, but it was Jones that made him a genius in my opinion.

A brilliant combination.



LoL yeah mate and not just on the sly :) , Beat it & billie jean i liked , but not loved :) I didnt like enuff 2 buy but i can see y ppl loved him etc , also the crazy stuff that jonno listed makes me think this guy was Insane , but ignoring the crazy stuff and lookin at him music wise i can see y he was so popular :) i dont like any1 dying tbh but i dont feel more upset coz its mj , lookin in my local paper readin ppl gettin stabbed , having heartattacks etc is just as upsettin , even if i dont no the victims . RIP tho
 

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LoL yeah mate and not just on the sly :) , Beat it & billie jean i liked , but not loved :) I didnt like enuff 2 buy but i can see y ppl loved him etc , aslo the crazy stuff that jonno listed makes me think this guy was Insane , but ignoring the crazy stuff and lookin at him music wise i can see y he was so popular :) i dont like any1 dying tbh but i dont feel more upset coz its mj , lookin in my local paper readin ppl gettin stabbed , having heartattacks etc is just as upsettin , even if i dont no the victims . RIP tho

Would not say I'm upset. Well apart from having tickets for the gig.:(

I'm no Jacko obsessive and how can you like all the mad side of him.

I just know talent when I see or hear it and he was the best song and dance man in the business.
Still the music is what mattered and that will be around for a long time.
 

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Without doubt a musical genius- however i wouldnt have asked him to babysit thats for sure

See this kind of comment makes me mad why do people judge and just jump on the bangwagon basicly he was never proven guilty he was made by the press then because he was a bit different he was then brought down and exploited and everyone else jumped on it and I would say the press then killed him by the way he was treated and like they all do turned to some kind of drug, which it seemed he may of OD on simple really all the legends die young cos life gets fucked up RIP MJ!!
 

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Would not say I'm upset. Well apart from having tickets for the gig.:(

I'm no Jacko obsessive and how can you like all the mad side of him.

I just know talent when I see or hear it and he was the best song and dance man in the business.
Still the music is a what mattered and that will be around for a long time.

Fair does mate i respect that :)
 
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See this kind of comment makes me mad why do people judge and just jump on the bangwagon basicly he was never proven guilty he was made by the press then because he was a bit different he was then brought down and exploited and everyone else jumped on it and I would say the press then killed him by the way he was treated and like they all do turned to some kind of drug, which it seemed he may of OD on simple really all the legends die young cos life gets fucked up RIP MJ!!

Ok ill base my decison on one fact only that can not be disputed then- i wouldnt want my babysitter to dangle my child over a balcony i would want a babysitter to protect and care for my child not put them in any uneccesarry danger- sandwich short of a picnic springs to mind -enough said
 

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when peeps in america (or where ever) go campin, the men sleep in the same tents as boys, they must be all pids then :|

LoL no i wouldnt say thats the same , Boys were sleeping in his bed without the boys parents noing !!

it doesnt matter does it , I feel sorry for you and his fans . RIP
 

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Have thought about it a lot today, felt pretty sad. Someone at work asked me to explain and I finally came up with this....

Regardless of all the other stuff, between Off the Wall and Bad, there were 8.5 billion people on the planet. There was no one to touch him. He was like a Carl Lewis, a Usain Bolt, a Maradonna. The whole, music, songwriter, dance package, he was totally untouchable. You had people doing great music, amazing untouchable music, but this guy had it all. And he kept doing it. I looked at the tracklist of Bad today, it's a stronger album than Thriller IMO, fuck me, that's an amazing achievement,

If you love music, and you understand humanity just a little bit, you have to be in awe of that. Regardless of what came later, true or not.

Anyway, sad day for me, surprised how much it hit me.
 

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it doesnt matter does it

nope it doesnt m8, RIP MJ.

summit off another site..

In 1966, the Jackson 5 won an important local talent competition with a Michael-led rendition of the Temptations' "My Girl." Their father, who had been chauffeuring them to out-of-state performances, also booked their first paid professional gigs that year. In 1967, the group won an amateur talent competition at Harlem's legendary Apollo Theater, where they earned an influential fan in Gladys Knight (probably the first person to recommend the group to Motown). At the end of the year, the Jackson 5 made their first studio recordings for the small Gary-based Steeltown label, and their single "Big Boy" became something of a local hit. Championed again to Motown by Bobby Taylor, a member of the Vancouvers who'd seen the group in Chicago, and Diana Ross, the Jackson 5 finally got a chance to audition for the label in the summer of 1968. Desperately needing new blood, an impressed Berry Gordy signed the group and flew them out to his new headquarters in Los Angeles, where he and his assistants groomed them to be the label's next breakout stars. Having lost his famed Holland-Dozier-Holland songwriting team, Gordy formed a new partnership with Freddie Perren, Fonce Mizell, and Deke Richards dubbed the Corporation, which set about crafting material for the group.

and the rest, as they say, is history
 

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If someone had my abused one of my kids I would definatly not take a pay off for any amount of money I would want them through court and behind bars end of!!! Point made!!! :mad:

point well made Al, i can totaly understand that being a parent, anyone who thinks that 26 million dollars,,,,,,or any amount of money in the world for that matter is enough to justify the the price of there childs inosence is a very sick twisted individual, and should burn in hell for that. But know one wants to point the finger in there direction. Do they ??

As for MJ paying them off, cant anyone with one ounce of comon sence understand why he would pay them off. true or not true, if it had gone to court, even if MJ had won the case, people would still class him as guilty....you only have to look at the coments on this thread to see that.

People are far to easy to make asumptions simply on what they see in the tabloid media, non of us have first hand evidence to blame our claims on, because non of us ever met him, or was involved in the case first hand, we simply make asumtions on what the media tell us,

However, we all do have the choice to flex our mind a little, and read both sides of a storey.....look at the background of MJ though his biografies, listen to the words in his songs. This guy had a very strict up-brining by his father who would beat him for anything less than perfection...he was never alowed a childhood, his Father would stand at the end of his bed when he was 5 years old holding a knife, threatning to attack him when he woke up, just to toughen him up (again......no one is pointing the finger at his Father). MJ grew up missing the most important thing in his life.....A childhood (close your eyes for a second, and try imagine how that would feel like for you, i bet like me, you cant even start to imagine) This guy then tried to build this world with the money he earned, but as we all know (just like the parents who think there child is worth 26 million dollars) money can never buy you happiness. Add to this a complete sence of icelation, from being told by the world that you are a god, and therefor diffrent to all others.....Is there realy any wonder in the world that you might see things diffrent to the so called "normal"

MJ was no Peado......he was a despratly lonley guy, who thoughout everything he went through in life, still held hope for world peace, and to express true love for everyone in the world......ask yourself this question. Would you, me or anyone else involved with this thread be able to say they could go though all this, without wanting revenge on the world.......he did, i dont think i could if i was to be honest

There is know wonder he ended up going all weird.......but that dont make him a kiddy fiddler

The problem with this world is the media have made us that paranoid, we cant even dear be seen playing with children without worring, that the person next to us thinks we are being dodgy......not all people over 20 that play with children are peadophiles......some people are just nice !!!!!

Stop judging them on bollox that the media has shapped you to believe, use your common sence for once!!!
 

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I would agian however like to put on record that this guy was a genius in music terms and will be sorley missed rip