Bin laden is dead

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Amazing 7 part vid from a Govt former Black Ops whistle-blower who has served at the highest level under many administrations for 30 odd years, Bin Laden dead since 2001 not from a bullet but from Marfan Syndrome... kept on ice (literally) until the time was deemed right. He also confirms it was known that Bin Laden did NOT mastermind 9/11 but was used as a scapegoat & an excuse for invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq & will be used for Pakistan.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj0pM5FoYbs]YouTube - Dr. Steve Pieczenik: Bin Laden, The Oswald Like Patsy Died 10 Years Ago! 1/7[/ame]
 
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Jiglo said:
Er, explain why then?:D

So a conspiracy theory is ''spot on'', even though it contravenes the facts presented us and you can't offer a shred of proof to back up such a claim?

There's no reason to not believe the facts presented us and there's too much for the US to loose in credibility if the facts presented to us are wrong, so if you know better then explain yourself, or join the ranks of the crackpots that always think there's a bigger agenda while not being able to offer up a plausible alternative other than having a hunch;)
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The poor comment was about the pork reference, that's all.
The spot on bit was about the 'fear led US bilge' that Pauly p mentioned.

Not wanting to get into a inertweb row here, have a look at that youtube vid that I posted, explains a lot of things I think.
I just hate what is happening at the moment in the world, I believe that we are being played by people who have an agenda.
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crickey who to believe :crazy: is the government brainwashing us and making us live in fear of terrorists :confused: over the years have we not witnessed dozens of appalling terror attacks, many on film too.
or is it the people who come up with all the conspiracy theories that are brainwashing us all against our governments and there isn't much of a terror problem at all.
whenever anything big happens everyone knows best, because they have seen or read about it, and assume the bit they have seen or read about in their mind is the truth. I'm pretty sure some things are just too big to cover up, and in this case if he was still alive or if he died years ago, i guess someone close to him would have announced it either way, if for nothing other than to show the world the USA are full of lies. but then again what would i know, i can only repeat on bits Ive seen or read ;)
 
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Good post that leaky, it does all boil down to who you believe.
All I will say is cast you minds back to the invasion of Iraq. We were told that Saddam had WMD that could be fired at us within 45mins. That was, I think the reason that our government went to war.
When these weapons were not found (because there weren't any which was later confirmed by Hans Blix) we were told that he was THINKING about getting them. Now, I don't know about you but for me there is a bit of a difference between THINKING and having them.
So, after that lie was shot down we were then told that he was such a bad man that that he gassed his own people. This is probably true but as the west were shouting about this atrocity we failed to understand that it was us that sold him the gas. How can you put a gun in somebody's hand with the knowledge that he will use it then turn around and say how bad he is for doing it??? WE produced it, WE sold it to him.
Sorry for derailing the thread but I just want to highlight that our governments are not as clean as you think.
 
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jason67 said:
So, after that lie was shot down we were then told that he was such a bad man that that he gassed his own people. This is probably true but as the west were shouting about this atrocity we failed to understand that it was us that sold him the gas. How can you put a gun in somebody's hand with the knowledge that he will use it then turn around and say how bad he is for doing it??? WE produced it, WE sold it to him.
Sorry for derailing the thread but I just want to highlight that our governments are not as clean as you think.
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ6kMWA2WRk]YouTube - hicks pick up the gun[/ame]
 
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Shooms said:
Amazing 7 part vid from a Govt former Black Ops whistle-blower who has served at the highest level under many administrations for 30 odd years, Bin Laden dead since 2001 not from a bullet but from Marfan Syndrome... kept on ice (literally) until the time was deemed right. He also confirms it was known that Bin Laden did NOT mastermind 9/11 but was used as a scapegoat & an excuse for invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq & will be used for Pakistan.


YouTube - Dr. Steve Pieczenik: Bin Laden, The Oswald Like Patsy Died 10 Years Ago! 1/7
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he also says 9/11 was an inside job lol :rolleyes: :naughty:

and what about bin ladens 12 year old daughter being held by pakistan who witnessed her fathers death last week and who revealed the sequence of events and disclosed the fact her father was unarmed, is she in on the big staged fake assassination too?
 
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Good post that leaky, it does all boil down to who you believe.
All I will say is cast you minds back to the invasion of Iraq. We were told that Saddam had WMD that could be fired at us within 45mins. That was, I think the reason that our government went to war.
When these weapons were not found (because there weren't any which was later confirmed by Hans Blix) we were told that he was THINKING about getting them. Now, I don't know about you but for me there is a bit of a difference between THINKING and having them.
So, after that lie was shot down we were then told that he was such a bad man that that he gassed his own people. This is probably true but as the west were shouting about this atrocity we failed to understand that it was us that sold him the gas. How can you put a gun in somebody's hand with the knowledge that he will use it then turn around and say how bad he is for doing it??? WE produced it, WE sold it to him.
Sorry for derailing the thread but I just want to highlight that our governments are not as clean as you think.
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I think thats why Bin laden was shot dead rather than have him on trial revealing too many of the USA's dirty little secrets from when the CIA funded the Mujahideen during the Afgan/Soviet conflict
 
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word, still one of my fave comedians to this day. a sad loss :(

not much to say about bin laden, tbh i have always thought he died years ago, and they supressed it cos they needed an excuse to go and secure the oil. not that it's doing me much good at £1.36 a litre, looks like i picked the wrong year to buy a golf gti. anyone wanna swap me for a g-wizz? :p
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Bin Laden is associated with terrorism, not oil:thumbsup:
 
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jason67 said:
The poor comment was about the pork reference, that's all.
The spot on bit was about the 'fear led US bilge' that Pauly p mentioned.

Not wanting to get into a inertweb row here, have a look at that youtube vid that I posted, explains a lot of things I think.
I just hate what is happening at the moment in the world, I believe that we are being played by people who have an agenda.
:wave:
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It's a radical idea, but if it would work in preventing terrorist from risking future attacks because they'll never reach heaven, then I would be in favour of it. But i'd agree it's more likely to inflame moderates, so i'd agree it's probably not the best idea:thumbsup:

As for propaganda and documentaries, it's much like a magicians bag of tricks. It's all about convincing viewers into believing what they are seeing is real and i've seen a lot of shite that guillible viewers will buy into no questions asked. I know governments are corrupt and I know conspiracy theorists will use every trick in the book to convince you into believing there side of the story too, but there doesn't always have to be an alternate agenda, especially when something like this could backfire so badly and jeopardise their world standing.

The weapons of mass destruction story damaged the US and UK's standing in the world pretty badly. That's a bloody good reason why they wouldn't want a repeat of that event.
 
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