nowthen said:That 118 118 bollox is the same, I rang it the other week an got 2 wrong numbers after tryin to expain what I wanted for ages.
An after all that pissin about I found I had the number I was after in the phonebook of me mobi anyway!! :$
sirius said:Lol. No point moaning peeps its the way its rolling. If India/Pakistan wasnt such a shitheap and hostile place in general, Id probably have to go out there to work myself!. Engineering is moving there in a big way too....nevermind call centers.
Theres a global shift in working, and unfortunately we are up shit creek without any paddles and theres nothing we can do about it, not even protesting and boycotting can win this one Im afraid.
Its an economic disaster thats gonna hit us REAL hard, and I mean REAL HARD. When you can buy a new video recorder for 49.99 made in some godforsaken place abroad - think about it for that product alone - materials, labour, design, manufacturing, administration, printing, packaging, not to mention SHIPPING the bastrads accross the bloody world.....the shops make a mark up on it at 49.99, they have to do. What can you make here for 50quid? feck all. It wouldnt even cover the designers participance nevermind manufacture and everything else. When it costs 49.99 for that video, and you buy a new roof ariel, and the installation guy is on sommet daft like 40 or 50 pounds an hour - how can we EVER compete???!!!! - and ALL society is geared up around these sorts of pay rates!. The whole economy is waiting for a huge kick in the stomach and nobody seems to be able to do anything about it.
We no longer have any 'clout' globaly, we can no longer support ourselves (thanks to the tories shutting factorys and mines and other self sufieciency industries etc) so we now rely on these imports from abroad - we were no longer economically viable as pay rates to live here were costing more than the actual coal out the ground etc etc. We can not support ourselves any longer in relationship to a global market.
Moving call centers out there is only the tip of the iceberg peeps. Although we cannot understand what the bloody hell they are saying, the fact is they are not stupid over there, many know three languages and are more highly educated than we are, will work for less, and are being invested in with cutting edge technologies like no tomorrow.
The only advantages is it will stop bloody spongers arriving on our shores cos we will be the cess pit of europe, fewer muslims flocking here with a bit of luck (imo), and they fact that they wont work for peanuts forever and it will eventually 'even up' once they have made the country as affluent as we are now. Then we may be cheaper than them again. A long cycle that will last my working life out I reckon.
I know, its depressing but foreign based industries whether it be asian, korean, albania or whatever, are not going to decline. Theres nothing much we can do besides beg to be honest.
Cheerio
Sirius.
sirius said:Seeing as you are intent on dragging up old arguments in an attempt to slur me, you will find somewhere that I AGREE with you there wholeheartedly. Id love to buy goods made here and support our manufacturing and product base, please tell me where I can easily find these goods.
All I am pointing out in this debate is that this IS happening and it is something we should ALL be worried about, no matter who you are. I feel you are now reading between the lines and making issues where there wasnt intention to in previous posts, some of which I have already appoligised for and readjusted my stance upon.
Sirius.
Abu Barney said:Why would me bringing posts by you back on this board with comments and issues that you have raised slur you?
wildpitch said:Just an idea abu, perhaps it has something to with the fact that the few threads I've seen you posting in you always seem to be quoting Sirius. Why is that??
Lol. No point moaning peeps its the way its rolling. If India/Pakistan wasnt such a shitheap and hostile place in general, Id probably have to go out there to work myself!. Engineering is moving there in a big way too....nevermind call centers.
Theres a global shift in working, and unfortunately we are up shit creek without any paddles and theres nothing we can do about it, not even protesting and boycotting can win this one Im afraid.
Its an economic disaster thats gonna hit us REAL hard, and I mean REAL HARD. When you can buy a new video recorder for 49.99 made in some place abroad - think about it for that product alone - materials, labour, design, manufacturing, administration, printing, packaging, not to mention SHIPPING the bastrads accross the bloody world.....the shops make a mark up on it at 49.99, they have to do. What can you make here for 50quid? feck all. It wouldnt even cover the designers participance nevermind manufacture and everything else. When it costs 49.99 for that video, and you buy a new roof ariel, and the installation guy is on sommet daft like 40 or 50 pounds an hour - how can we EVER compete???!!!! - and ALL society is geared up around these sorts of pay rates!. The whole economy is waiting for a huge kick in the stomach and nobody seems to be able to do anything about it.
We no longer have any 'clout' globaly, we can no longer support ourselves (thanks to the tories shutting factorys and mines and other self sufieciency industries etc) so we now rely on these imports from abroad - we were no longer economically viable as pay rates to live here were costing more than the actual coal out the ground etc etc. We can not support ourselves any longer in relationship to a global market.
Moving call centers out there is only the tip of the iceberg peeps. Although we cannot understand what they are saying, the fact is they are not stupid over there, many know three languages and are more highly educated than we are, will work for less, and are being invested in with cutting edge technologies like no tomorrow.
I know, its depressing but foreign based industries whether it be asian, korean, albania or whatever, are not going to decline. Theres nothing much we can do to be honest.
Cheerio
Sirius.
Sirius was a prophet maaaaaaaaaaaan... bring him back
Doesn't this just pi$$ u off, can't even understand em and vice versa!