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No wonder its getting chucked. I reckon, because things are costing so much, some peeps are opting for supermarkets own brands, and in turn its tasting rank, so it has to be chucked :)

I mean as if a 99p lasagne is gonna taste nice :rolleyes:

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PS: lol my gran still makes her Sunday roast last, she makes sandwiches from the meats and not forgetting bubble n squeak :D
 

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Fucking hell Gordon, clutching at straws much?

I rather think the unparalleled and shameful profligacy with taxpayers money, combined with headless-chicken style budgetary management of the previous incumbent of the chancellors chair has "contributed to price rises" rather more than my lobbing away a bit of milk when it gets a few days on it & cracking open a fresh one.

Classic "attack is the best form of defence" tactic.

Although, unfortunately for Gordon, the British public are just not that thick. We see straight through it.

Don't be such a hypocrite, Gordon Brown, if you want us to be frugal, then stop pissing our income tax up the wall :mad:
 

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No wonder its getting chucked. I reckon, because things are costing so much, some peeps are opting for supermarkets own brands, and in turn its tasting rank, so it has to be chucked :)

I mean as if a 99p lasagne is gonna taste nice :rolleyes:

:thumbsup:

The £1.76p (may even be cheaper) one from Lidl is very nice indeed and would feed a small army!
 

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Wasting food is something that really gets on nerves :mad: I try not to waste anything if I can avoid it and we still make butties out of Sunday roast left overs :p My parents always used to say if you don't clear your plate then you can have it for your dinner tomorrow.

One thing that annoys the hell out of me is when people throw things away just because its past its sell by date, sometimes only by one day. Most things are fine a few days past this and you can tell if things have gone off or not quite easily.
 

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but this is bang on in my opinion


BBC NEWS | Politics | 'Stop wasting food', urges Brown

We are such a wasteful nation... who remembers when a Sunday roast turned into Monday sandwiches & Tuesday curry ?

Could not agree more.

When large parts of the world are starving, it is obscene and morally wrong that we "richer" nations can throw upto 30% of our weekly shop in the bin.

As you may imagine this does not happen at Chez Radish, my Yorkshire bloodline prevents such a shameful situation and almost all food bought is made use of.

It is amazing what you can use up in an omelette for example!

Even if you don't give a stuff about morality and only care about cash, on common sence grounds waste is bad and cost's you money.:(

I don't think Brown is trying to win a popularity contest here as he knew it would be seen a Nanny State interference, but I applaud him highlighting a very valid issue knowing it would draw him fire.
 

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Wasting food is something that really gets on nerves :mad: I try not to waste anything if I can avoid it and we still make butties out of Sunday roast left overs :p My parents always used to say if you don't clear your plate then you can have it for your dinner tomorrow.

One thing that annoys the hell out of me is when people throw things away just because its past its sell by date, sometimes only by one day. Most things are fine a few days past this and you can tell if things have gone off or not quite easily.

Sell by dates. . . totally agree Kate.


If it looks off or smells off. . . . it is off. . . . apart from some cheeses!;)

Again common sence needs to be applied, but is a precious commodity it would seem.
 

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Sell by dates. . . totally agree Kate.


If it looks off or smells off. . . . it is off. . . . apart from some cheeses!;)

Again common sence needs to be applied, but is a precious commodity it would seem.

Exactly, a girl I used to live with at uni would go through the fridge and just throw anything that was past it sell by date without even checking it first. Madness if you ask me :naughty: for the money as much as for the fact that's its a shameful waste.
 

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I don't think Brown is trying to win a popularity contest here as he knew it would be seen a Nanny State interference, but I applaud him highlighting a very valid issue knowing it would draw him fire.

For once, esteemed senor Radish we disagree.
I think given his position and personal & career history, Gordon Brown is the LAST person who should be going on record with soundbites about wasting food.

At best it's patronising, and at worst it's downright hypocrisy.
To me, it gives away the ego of the man that he will try to make personal political capital out of even this.
Surely he must know, if he really does want to reduce food wastage... I mean if that really is his aim, there are better ways of getting the message across. At least ways that will be viewed in a more positive light, and hence are more likely to be taken on board.

My issue is not with what was said but with who said it, and why. It reeks of spin and "politik" rather than any actual substance.
 

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For once, esteemed senor Radish we disagree.
I think given his position and personal & career history, Gordon Brown is the LAST person who should be going on record with soundbites about wasting food.

At best it's patronising, and at worst it's downright hypocrisy.
To me, it gives away the ego of the man that he will try to make personal political capital out of even this.
Surely he must know, if he really does want to reduce food wastage... I mean if that really is his aim, there are better ways of getting the message across. At least ways that will be viewed in a more positive light, and hence are more likely to be taken on board.

My issue is not with what was said but with who said it, and why. It reeks of spin and "politik" rather than any actual substance.


You may be right, but I still agree with "what" he said. This topic has been covered by the press a number of times in low key articles, but he has really put the subject on the agenda and at a time when G8 are discussing the real problem of food shortages and rising costs.

Spin or leading from the front??? Possibly either or both?? However, if it was spin. . . . well it's an odd one to spin a story that will attract critics.

Let's just be thankful that the message was not delivered by John Prescott.:| ;)
 
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. . . . well it's an odd one to spin a story that will attract critics.

Let's just be thankful that the message was not delivered by John Prescott.:| ;)

...critics but also supporters mate *cough*
End of day, even I will admit that what he said makes sense, there's no possible argument against it. Gordon Brown wanting to personally be associated with a message which "makes sense"... still think it's an odd one?

What's odd is that he thinks coming from him it will do any good. He thinks people will listen to what is being said without considering who is saying it and why. Patronising, like I said. And underestimating the British public.

Don't wanna make the thread a political footy though...

I love curries made off the roast leftovers me. Allus seemed to taste better!
 

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Apparently, 40% of all the food harvested is thrown because it isn't fit for selling because we aren't very efficient at getting it to market in time or the right condition that the public expects:|

It's gotta start at the farmers/livestock/production end, then work through the supermarkets who themselves waste food (and are probably the main reason that so much of the farmers stock goes to waste :mad: ), then maybe we should question whether we really need another of the same item simply because its offered at a bargain price for the second;)

Maybe refridgerators should only be sold if they reach a certain level of efficiency even.

Anyway, I hate seeing food wasted and it is criminal were it needn't have been:naughty:
 

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I'd happily do what that guy in London used to do....taking stuff thrown out by supermarkets and living on it...but as some of you know im 'owt for nowt' ha ha


Mr Wendal...

....... Uncivilized we call him,
but I just saw him eat off the food we waste
 

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or the right condition that the public expects:|

That is the totally mad bit, I have heard of people who would not eat an apple from a friends garden because it still had the stalk and leaves attached!:confused:

People have become so detached from what food is and where it comes from!!
The supermarkets don't help by having cosmetic standards for produce. . . . it only gets to the shop if it looks like those bowls of waxed fruit do.

As Jim points out this results in 20-30% of a perfectly good crop been rejected by the supermarkets. . . . .As a farmers son. . . this drives me mad.
 

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It doesn't help matters regarding the food shortage that everyone jumped on the biofuel bandwagon, which was just an disaster waiting to happen...

It also doesn't help when people keep breeding when they haven't even got food for their own mouths, never mind their kids...

If people want to waste food that they've bought with their own money, then that's up to them, and when Mr Clown stops wasting mine and everyone elses money, maybe then he'll have the right to tell us all to stop being quite so wastefull, lol
 

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Fucking hell Gordon, clutching at straws much?

I rather think the unparalleled and shameful profligacy with taxpayers money, combined with headless-chicken style budgetary management of the previous incumbent of the chancellors chair has "contributed to price rises" rather more than my lobbing away a bit of milk when it gets a few days on it & cracking open a fresh one.

Classic "attack is the best form of defence" tactic.

Although, unfortunately for Gordon, the British public are just not that thick. We see straight through it.

Don't be such a hypocrite, Gordon Brown, if you want us to be frugal, then stop pissing our income tax up the wall :mad:

Rising oil prices and the credit crunch are not Gordon Browns fault. This is what is driving inflation and rising prices.

Gordon Brown took us through the most stable economic era ever as chancellor.
 

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Rising oil prices and the credit crunch are not Gordon Browns fault. This is what is driving inflation and rising prices.

Gordon Brown took us through the most stable economic era ever as chancellor.

haha so wrong...

Rising oil prices are not Gordon Brown's fault, BUT his doggedly sticking to this country's unfair and punitive system of effectively double taxing fuel is what really hits consumers in the pocket. (interestingly, if you read the "justification" for taxing fuel so heavily, it is "to protect the consumer from fluctuations in oil prices"... funny that... every change in the price of oil i've ever seen has been directly passed on to the consumer... just like with mortgage rates).

Gordon Brown, as chancellor, introduced several "stealth" tax hikes during your so-called "stable period", some of which were on fuel, and only came into force months after they were announced.

Gordon Brown does not set oil prices on the markets, but he has a huge and very negative impact on the price paid by consumers, whilst allegedly "protecting the consumer from price fluctuations".

OK... now on to the "stable era" and the credit crunch. Yes, Gordon Brown presided over a period when our economy was in very good shape, BECAUSE OF HIS PREDECESSORS. Everybody knows the effects of economic changes take a long time to be felt and seen by consumers.
Yes, we were in a stable economic condition, during which time Gordon Brown taxed, and taxed, and taxed some more. He also borrowed more and more, raising the national debt in order to fund huge "investment" in health, education, the police etc. (investment which, i might add, in my view was far far more wasteful than any wastage of food). Last but not least, we have the war in Iraq. Which Gordon Brown as chancellor borrowed the money to fund.

It's fine to borrow in a blossoming market, but unfortunately, Gordon's fiscal policies of high taxation, and high borrowing have left this country's treasury in a terrible state. When the US subprime market had a wobble, we were not in a good position to do anything about it. When consumer confidence started to wane, gordon (by then PM) was in no position to do anything about it (but he let Alastair Darling do the press conferences).
But leets look at what they did do... they took Northern Rock into government ownership. Effectively using treasury money, raising the national debt still further, to underwrite the bad debt commitments made by the worst offending UK institution in the US subprime market.
Effectively saying to Northern rock "OK, you played fast and loose in the subprime debt markets... you took more risks than anybody else with your investors money, and consequently you got bitten on the arse really badly... but don't worry, we'll make sure the British taxpayer will keep you solvent."

So... what do we have to show for gordon's tenure as chancellor? A war in iraq which the whole world apart from America was against (even they are now against it). Public services which are not noticeably any better than before Labour got involved, and everyone asking, quite rightly, where all the money went. Admittedly he didn't set the policies, but he was the man who found the money to pay for it. In 10 years he took the strongest economy this country has had for a century and he managed to fuck the whole thing up. If you think that makes him a good chancellor, then you are deluded i'm afraid.