ampersand, manchester???

[Amelie]

Yes that is how these clubs were!!!! If you find this offensive then sorry but it is true, I was a regular so I should know. I am not saying I agreed with the strict dress codes enforced but there was nothing anyone could do. Personally I hated the pretentious clubby types that hid behind they labels but inorder to get in to those clubs you had to dress to impress.

You are missing my point completely. My argument is that the whole ethos of old skool lies in its origins, and that is a movement that made all welcome. Individuals from many different backgrounds were united on common ground, and that was a love of great music. There was no inforcment of a dresscode, as that was not what it was about.

To me, the thing that you describe above, the whole 'dress to impress' ideology played a helping hand in the demise of old skool as i knew it. I can not imagine ever compromising myself in order to get into a club, more so one full of (as you put it) 'pretentious clubby types that hid behind there labels'. I am sorry but that does not sound my idea of fun. That is not old skool, sure they play the same music. There is the difference though, old skool is not a collection of records, its a combination of great music, sound people (all with a desire to just enjoy themselves) and an amazing atmosphere.

Old skool is waiting all bastard week to get to that club with your mates, cramming in cars, exited as fuck as you just knew it was going to be amazing. Old skool is hearing one of your fave tracks blasting out and looking at the person next to you, someone who you have never seen before and knowing exactly how great they feel at that moment. Old skool is standing on some random services and talking utter shite with lots of people, all of you just being extremely chuffed to be part of something, being mates, just because you are expirencing the same thing at the same time.

Old skool is not having to be something you are not as a prerequisite for club entry.

Look at Hazy, it is hailed as the closest thing to a traditional old skool night yet. I doubt the promotors have ever sat down and said to each other:

' I know, what this night needs is a strict dress code and lots of attitude, that will get the punters in!'

This night is so popluar as it has instilled the tradition vibe of freindliness and unitiy.

 

[oldskoolLiisa]

jesus....... you too have missed my point too but never mind.... i know what old skool is...... why do ya think I have joined this board .... because I luuurrvvvee old skool and how it used to be before the 'glam' clubs..... I was only commenting on a post made by someone else.... anyway I will end this debate now as it could go on foreva and eva......



Liisa

 

[blue jammer]

This sounds like an intro for a book

Old skool is waiting all bastard week to get to that club with your mates, cramming in cars, exited as fuck as you just knew it was going to be amazing. Old skool is hearing one of your fave tracks blasting out and looking at the person next to you, someone who you have never seen before and knowing exactly how great they feel at that moment. Old skool is standing on some random services and talking utter shite with lots of people, all of you just being extremely chuffed to be part of something, being mates, just because you are expirencing the same thing at the same time.

Old skool is not having to be something you are not as a prerequisite for club entry.

Only thing missing from the end of that is...

...and this is fresh

 

[Amelie]

This sounds like an intro for a book



Only thing missing from the end of that is...

Lol, nah your intro will be miles better! Its my latest muse

 

[XValentinadobeX]

correction old skool is music,clubs ,fashion all rolled into one. ffs what r u people on?? ever heard of oldskool glam gay clubs? yer shhhhruup sounds to me like some r puttin oldskool into little sections and blabberin on about em like they created feckin oldskool

 

[pauly p]

If I had a club I would not allow anyone is who wears brown shoes...... LOL

oh poo I`ve just spent £90 on a pair of brown fly`s

 

[XValentinadobeX]

do not fear pauly p u can wear pink or brown shoes in my club hey i havent got one but if i had

 

[blue jammer]

correction old skool is music,clubs ,fashion all rolled into one. ffs what r u people on?? ever heard of oldskool glam gay clubs? yer shhhhruup sounds to me like some r puttin oldskool into little sections and blabberin on about em like they created feckin oldskool

It's funny, just thinking back to how you accused people of having digs and whatnot.

Just re-read your own words I've just quoted and you'll see there's a fair bit of attitude there.

No need for it

No one here created old skool, we are all just people who have enjoyed it for what it is in the past, present and future.

Peace out.

 

[XValentinadobeX]

well why then jammer do peeps hav2 feel the need to put it into little catorgories , accept the whole 10 yr era or how ever many yrs peeps would like to correct me on lmao for what it was instead of picking at little bits of it and critising it, i loved and still love it all hardcore to mellow sounds, trainers to stilettos, underground to commercial, some peeps give me the impression they want a bloody medal for lecturin on oldskool and jammer im gonna hit u with my rhythm stick when i see ya

 

[WAFC]

in my club

i would have the following dress code

birds with big tits only.

 

[blue jammer]

well why then jammer do peeps hav2 feel the need to put it into little catorgories

People (generalising here, and mainly referring to the 'media') prefer things simple like. So instead of having A-Z and calling it simply that, they like A, T and Z kept apart.

I've never understood the need for as many sub-genre's of house as there are, particularly 'speed garage' and 'handbag house' :S

accept the whole 10 yr era or how ever many yrs peeps would like to correct me on lmao for what it was instead of picking at little bits of it and critising it, i loved and still love it all hardcore to mellow sounds, trainers to stilettos, underground to commercial, some peeps give me the impression they want a bloody medal for lecturin on oldskool

I never got a blue peter badge, so I started making my own (I will wear my most special badge escpecially for you on Saturday night)

and jammer im gonna hit u with my rhythm stick when i see ya

Is that a threat or a promise?

You'll have to catch me first

 

[XValentinadobeX]

i might just wera my wonder woman outfit and catch u with my trusty lasso

 

[Jonno]

correction old skool is music,clubs ,fashion all rolled into one. ffs what r u people on?? ever heard of oldskool glam gay clubs? yer shhhhruup sounds to me like some r puttin oldskool into little sections and blabberin on about em like they created feckin oldskool

First off apologies for being frank but, what I think Blue Jammer was trying to point out (and if he wasn't then I will), is that do you not see the irony of posting this kind of thing, and then starting a thread like this one:

http://www.oldskoolanthemz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37476

where you have a moan at other people, supposedly, doing exactly that kind of thing.

Let's be totally honest here, within this post (which is the one I presume you say people were "bein dam right bitchy or critical"). If you read it back no one had a personal dig at you, some people had a pop at nights where you had dress to impress, which they felt went against the old skool ethos (however you may want to definie it). They are certainly within their rights to do this, considering it's an old skool anthems board! The first post, as far as I can see, that seemed to clearly get personal and confrontational was here:
'

Northern Star,

Did you actually go clubbing in the early 90's?

Now unless I've completely misread the situation, your post in Chillout having a moan was certainly not directed at her!
'

why cant we all hav a discussion without bein so personal and assumptive

If you don't like it when people supposedly do it to you, then certainly don't do it yourself.

Like I say, apologies for being frank.

 

[WAFC]

lol

for nigh on 5 years i always thought your name was jonno not frank.
[skulks off back to soccerhooligan.com where this type of crap post is appreciated]

 

[Miss Cola]

for nigh on 5 years i always thought your name was jonno not frank.

Lol..Dear me!! lol!

 

[XValentinadobeX]

i havent got the energy at mo to bother defendin myself so i wont blah blah blah iv had enough twisted mind games in my life and im not about to bother lettin some of u off here try it with with, so bye bye lmao

 

[XValentinadobeX]

'with me' oops

 

[easty]

Easty I can categorically state that, the tunes at 2 Risque were not cheesy house. It was a good blend of funky house of all styles, loads of instrumentals, bongos and shit like that, then big vocal tunes, loads of twisted basslines etc etc, big atmospheric stuff. There was the odd mashup played, e.g. Ive got the midas touch, over a daft punk style beat. But all in all the music was not cheesy. What sort of tunes do they play at Ampersand then m8?

d nights on that I would deffo dig

Ste I will see you on Sinday night fella, can't be arsed going on about night's musicsal policies on here. I said I liked 2 risque though if you have a look and that ampersand was crap. At the end of the day peeps have their own opinion. I would much rather go to the phoenix for a night of breaks than go to any funky house night but thats just my preference

 

[Jonno]

i havent got the energy at mo to bother defendin myself so i wont blah blah blah iv had enough twisted mind games in my life and im not about to bother lettin some of u off here try it with with, so bye bye lmao

It was never my intention to play mind games. I apologise if you have viewed it as such.

Sorry for quoting someone else here (Amelie), but this pretty much sums things up. I don't know if it will help matters or if it will just seem condescending, it isn't meant to be:
'

I think perhaps you might have took comments made on the other threads a little to heart. Its easy to do- i did the same when i first arrived at the merry house of OSA. I do not belive that anyone was trying to make you look like a dick, just simply putting across their views on a topic put up for discussion. Its easy when you only communicate via text to misunderstand someone's intention, its the lack of inflection that causes the confusion.

One thing i have learned whilst being here though is not to let it get personal, if you feel that someone is really targeting you then perhaps the hoo-haa is best kept to pm's. What i mean is, by starting a thread that either directly or indirectly has a go at someone in another area of the board after a spat could be viewed as antagonistic. I appreciate that you felt 'got at', but starting this thread and name calling you may have caused bad feeling when none needed to occur.

As i said, when i first joined i was always thinking that i had said/done the wrong thing. Its just like any freindship group, there are individuals who like to voice their opinion. If you stick with it though, and treat everyone with a bit of respect, you will see that when people comment it really usually is done with the best of intentions.

 

[northern minx]

amelie

i just read this:

Old skool is waiting all bastard week to get to that club with your mates, cramming in cars, exited as fuck as you just knew it was going to be amazing. Old skool is hearing one of your fave tracks blasting out and looking at the person next to you, someone who you have never seen before and knowing exactly how great they feel at that moment. Old skool is standing on some random services and talking utter shite with lots of people, all of you just being extremely chuffed to be part of something, being mates, just because you are expirencing the same thing at the same time.

and im sat ere with tears rolling down me cheeks and a lump in me throat
u have just summed up wot it all meant for us all
and we sit on osa with all this as memories refusing to forget.. coz oldskool is a feeling inside and is part of who we are

i thank u for yr description and urge u to write a book... u capture me the reader everytime... heres a great big massive hug for how u have made me feel this morning .... uve made me feel like one of our fav tunes has just come on! u know the look in my eye! and we look at each other and know! and now we hold hands and dance .... and we are sisters and brothers